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Paizo's license changes

🕑 Added 2024-08-05 18:00:55 +0000 UTC

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Dyslexic Character Sheets

Maybe I could. It's a lot of extra annoyance, both for myself and users. It doesn't address the bigger question: without the CUP, new creative work will dry up.

Dyslexic Character Sheets

Exactly. The CUP has been the incubator for creative projects. Without it, the game won't get any new creative things.

Philip Newton

Also, as someone pointed out on the Paizo blog thread: Foundry is arguably the premier place to play Pathfinder 2e on VTT right now, because of the excellent work done by volunteers on the PF2e module for Foundry. And Foundry has a special licence with Paizo that (among other things) lets them use the Paizo names for gods etc. But as I understood it, they got the licence *because* they were successful enough to show up on Paizo’s radar. And they *became* that successful because they were allowed to build a non-commercial offering based on the Community Use Policy. In other words, this would never have happened in the current post-CUP world. Those volunteers would never have applied for a commercial licence with Paizo in advance of all of those thousands of person-hours of data-entry and coding time. And the world would have been a poorer place.

Dyslexic Character Sheets

I haven't done any of that yet! The character sheets are undamaged.

Rich Thomas

This sucks, man. While I understand and would have done the same thing out of self-defense, I wish you'd given us a head's up before stripping names and such out of the character sheets so we could download everything first. I had that already but it was back in 2019 so I'm sure there are a lot of updates I missed. Your character sheets are far and away the best I've ever found, on any site, anywhere online. Truly. You've made my gaming so much better. It sucks that this happens every time. Someone who loves a "thing" and creates a business around it, and then a community spring up around that...and then someone loses it in a divorce or sells one too many shares. Then the door is open for some business school asshole to step in and now the actual "thing" itself takes a backseat to simply raping the community for cash.

Dyslexic Character Sheets

(huh. I had a bunch of pictures in the article, but they seem to have gone)

Ian Danton

Well having read your analysis, I understand your pessimism. I found your sheets years ago and have used them consistently since. If it is any consolation I am really not that keen on PF2E or remaster anyway. I maintain my patreon because you earned it. Looking forward I have bought into the Tales of the Valiant. I am still not sure how I feel about it, but is Black Flag any better? Either way. Take care. I have extra whiskey if needed.

Zach

I am not a lawyer. Reading through the changes though, one option occurs to me: could you update your website to host only ORC/OGL material and then publish some additional data (in whatever format is easiest for your code to deal with — a gziped JSON blob, or whatever) via Infinite? When users access the site, they only get the ORC/OGL data by default (like Pathbuilder, essentially). Users who care about the proper nouns, etc., can get the data file from the Infinite program, and provide it as an input/upload. Only the data file is contaminated by the Infinite program, and it only needs to be updated to incorporate new info (so if a user has an old data file, they just see the expected proper nouns for a subset of content, but you could keep track of checksums or something and remind the user to go update their data file). I think this adds some UX friction (which I for one would be willing to put up with) but otherwise avoids making the site actively worse.

Janine Hein

Hi I am so sorry. You have put so much work and time into your project. and I was happy to finally find a character sheet that made sense to me. I hope, and you of course, that an acceptable solution will be found. But my hopes are not so high. Thank you for all the work you've done so far.

James G. Lind

Well. This is an awful big load of pig shit. You have worked so much on this website that it was painful for me to read this post. Effectively they pulled a Hasbro. I happily contribute to your patreon. I use the hell out of your 3.5 sheets. I figured Paizo was made of better stuff.....Especially since Hasbro just got finished handing it to us. Seems like it was just yesterday that Hasbro screwed the community. Crap!

Dyslexic Character Sheets

Thanks. (puts it next to the whiskey)

Farnaby

This sucks, especially for you and all the work you've put into it. I hope it sorts itself out to your/our benefit but I don't have high hopes. Corporations are not known for rolling back their mistakes. Someone had an idea and they ran with it without due diligence. Here's a virtual bottle of Tylenol/Aspirin for the next few weeks.


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