The Bronze Age Collapse - I: Before the Storm - Extra History

Very nice

Bill Lemmond

Had to go backand find this series. Thanks for setting the stage. Now I have a pretty good idea why I've never heard of "the bronze age collapse" before: there was too little known. :)

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They're not going to come up in this one, not directly! We'd be happy to cover the Kingdom of Israel on EH someday, though.

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We do our best!

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Dangit Jeff Goldblum! Why can you never save us from collapsing our own society through our hubris?

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Might not be speaking English right here, or if we were, it'd be a very very different version of it!

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What can we say, we're cool kids.

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I love it too! But then I was a Classics major, so I confess I love Classical history even better. ;) -Soraya

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There's a lot of theories! Spoilers: yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Today we've set the stage...

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African or European swallow?

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The historical Trojan War would be fuunnn to tackle... but it's not going to come up here. ;)

Christopher Smith

Yeah the art has been fantastic! And gosh seeing it all just makes me want that Sargon series even more. lol

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Peek behind-the-scenes: we corrected the position of the Assyrian Empire in production review (as well as sundry other things like the spelling of "Bronze Age"), but somehow the wrong file got uploaded to the server as the final version and that got pushed out the door with incorrect maps intact. :( Alas. We're working on a way to clear up that step in the production process or add some internal redundancy so that doesn't happen again because it did make us sad when we realized it.

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I love-love-love David's art in this series. I felt like he really got to play with colors and that is one of the many places where he SHINES.

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Oooh! I'm gonna check that out, thanks for the links, Martin!

Martin Verran

If the Jewish Traditional Version of Events is to be believed, this is the Time Period that the Exodus out of Egypt occurred when God supposedly Parted the Red Sea so the Israelites could get across.

Martin Verran

We'll never Know the answer precisely but I have been reading an Alternative History Online about what if ancient Egypt survived up to the Present Day.

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Robert Griffith

I would be curious to see how the Biblical Isrealites fit into this story... as I understand it, they start to emerge right after the collapse

Richard Fejdasz

Assyria probably shouldn't be a towering bully with Iron weapons yet, that would be the Second Assyrian Empire, or Neo Assyrian Empire. Also very good job with the varying regional skin tones.

Porcupine

I'm not saying it was the aliens... but it was the aliens. Solely because Jeff Goldblum wasn't around to upload a virus and get rid of them... :P

Jason Youngberg

I love this. Dawn of Civilization history was hardly covered when I was in school. I wonder what would have happened if whatever happened didn't happen.

Anubis76

And the Avatar reference?

dan

It wasn't the sole superpower? (Superpower is hardly anappropriate term anyway for a bronze age civ) The Assyrians and Hittes were its rivals. And the Assyrians, Persians, and Greeks conquered Egypt long before Rome.

SpoonofEvil

Of course they find a way to slip a Dark Souls reference in.

Martin Verran

Egypt loses its status as the sole Superpower at this Time, but it would struggle on for a few more Centuries before eventually being Conquered by Rome.

William Icenrose

Hooray! I love exploring pre-Classical history - it leaves so much room for imagination. I'm really looking forward to this series!

Martin Verran

1. Sir Robin of Camelot. 2. To seek the Holy Grail. 3. I don't Know that...aaarrrgghh!!! Couldn't resist that quote. [actual answer to Question 3 is Nineveh.]

Jonathan Luoto

As I understand the Bronze Age collapse is a because too many bad things just happens to coincide at the same time: we have earthquakes, starvation, sea people invasions, rebellions all happening in rougly the same time. Just too much bad things at once.

Iforgotmyname

What is your name ? What is your quest ? What is the capital of Assyria ?

barefoot James

I suspect you are going to tell us of a World War 0 which ends with the Trojan War.

dan

whoa...your assyrian empire is a little far out in Iran there. Also, did you said Egypt collapses during this time? I was pretty sure they make it through. They had a huge battle with the Sea Peoples and won....they lost out to other powers later on, and it wasn't until the Roman period Egypt as a distinct civilization began to fade out. Also all those pictures in the beginning of pyramids in ruins seems misleading since the Sea Peoples didn't sucessfully invade Egypt.

Christopher Smith

Been looking forward to this one, can't wait to watch it!

Martin Verran

Horray ~ It's Finally here, and at last we get an Egyptian Extra History! This also happens to be the First Topic I Voted for that actually Won. Seeing that this was on the way made me search YouTube for a Three-Part Documentary Series I Remembered watching when I was much Younger. I'm not exactly sure by how much but sufice to say it was Back in the Days of VHS and well before iPads or smart Phones. It took me a little while but here they are: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H4wVo8JfnA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H4wVo8JfnA</a> ~ Part One <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bu7_Qev7vE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bu7_Qev7vE</a> ~ Part Two <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hXa5-19pyY" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hXa5-19pyY</a> ~ Part Three