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The Articles of Confederation - Lies - Extra History
🕑 Added 2017-06-16 18:16:20 +0000 UTC Did you forget about the Articles of Confederation? We didn't! It's time for Lies!
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Bill Lemmond
Thanks, again, for filling in more details.Shays really was a sad case. I had always read that the continental army, and state militias were paid with land in the west (that Ohio River valley).
Dani McKenzie
You'll have to figure out how to contain his answers, otherwise it will be hours long. :-)
Dani McKenzie
I like the interview format, btw.
Iain Docherty
I guess because the idea that there needed to be a compromise itself is pretty damn racist, and racism was one thing both slave states and free states could unite on. It doesn't really make it less racist that the free states were the ones who didn't want to count slaves
Extra History
Because slavery is a horrible blight whose grievous effects are still tearing my country apart today, and it's a travesty that at one point we enshrined an idea that largely amounted to "black people are only worth 3/5 of a person" in the foundational document of our country. It immediately highlights the hypocrisy built into the Constitution of a nation which would claim to secure freedom for its citizens while outright denying the human value of an entire group of people most in need of such protection.
Extra History
Nope, it specifies that the 3/5 count applies to "those bound to service."
Extra History
I'm glad! I really enjoy it too. We're going to try having me interview James for the next one.
Extra History
Considering James will have to find this one instead of me, I can't either. >:)
Jim Land
Its only for enslaved people. I am curious about her reasoning for not liking the compromise. The complaint about worth is the most common objection is in regards to human worth, but that tends to be a silly complaint. If it was valid, you would expect those in favor of abolition to want slaves to count as a full person and for slaveholders to want them to count for none. However its the opposite, where slaveholders really wanted the extra votes that were not theirs to give.
t.
Well I guess Vermont would be an episode of its own...
Veteran of the Mushroom Wars
Stupid time-traveling Walpole
Jane Mayhew
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the 3/5ths compromise also applied to free people of color, not just enslaved people?
Iain Docherty
I like this interview format, allows for a lot more detail than just straightforward listing of mistakes/things left out
Porcupine
I can't wait to hear the Bronze Age's Walpole connection...
Extra History
Considering it's already on my to-do list for one-offs, I'd recommend picking something that isn't on there yet!
Extra History
:o
t.
I agree Shays Rebellion and the Vermont Republic together as a one off! I'm suggesting that next time suggestions are asked for
Veteran of the Mushroom Wars
LIES! LIES! WHY MUST YOU TURN THIS IN TO A PATREON OF LIES?!
Martin Verran
I'll let them Know when I see them again next Week and I can guarantee that their response shall be the...err... "Immortal" Words: "Baaaaaaaaahh!!!" 😉
Extra History
*Probably* next weekend, but I (Soraya) won't be around, so it's gonna depend on how self-sufficient James and Dan are feeling.
Extra History
Yeah, the interview format has been great but the fact that we're talking things out (instead of James listing things in a more straightforward way) does mean that they've gotten longer and longer. Or maybe I'm just bad at self-editing! Anyway, we're settling into the format.
Extra History
Hope you enjoy it!
Steve Jackson
When will be the next Q&A?
TerraN0va
40 minutes... wow, that's dedication. More dedication than I can muster at least. I'll watch it tomorrow. :)
Jonathan Luoto
Little late, but it takes time to do a long Lies episode
Extra History
It's the same as always! The Lies episode is always on Week 7, it's just that if the series is only four episodes long (like this one was) there's going to be two one-offs in between. Hello to the sheep!
Martin Verran
This Episode has been a bit slow in coming. My Sheep extend their Greetings unto you, or at least I Think they do, but then again it's a bit tricky understanding the language of the Sheep if you're a Human.
