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Extra History: Vote on a Topic!

🕑 Added 2016-06-16 07:09:19 +0000 UTC

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Joshua Kristoff

The problem with these things being late is that I miss my vote :(

schuyler

one more vote and we tie it up come on we can do this.

Christina Maria Jessen

That makes sense as a goal for the entire project. Education is a central goal. Personally, I just look more to the education of the current audience and users for the series and value things I imagine would provide new perspectives or fill out critical gaps for history-minded adults. But I certainly approve of getting more history teaching material for high school in general, too much is either really dry, really incompetent or both. Unless American textbooks are a lot better than Danish ones.

Extra History

Hahaha, yeah! I guess I reaped what I sowed there.

Nessf

Well, on the plus side - you got that even closer vote you were talking about.

Extra History

Yeah, we might have to drill down to something more specific if it wins. James seemed willing to tackle big stories with this round of suggestions, though, so I figure whatever wins we're going to get a meaty series out of it.

Extra History

It's got some tough competition this time around. It actually spent some time fighting for first place on the very first evening the poll was released, though, so it's got some love behind it!

Extra History

One of the goals with this particular topic selection was to pick things that are covered in the Western educational curriculum, to make sure that we're still providing resources that teachers can use in class. We lucked out that the patron-suggested topic was Libertadores, which (at least in the US) is part of the 10th grade curriculum. So I'm okay with War of the Roses potentially winning, even if it is a very common topic, because even with all the coverage it's gotten, very little of it (that I know of) has been presented at a high school level.

Extra History

You're getting way ahead on your Walpole research. I like it!

Extra History

YES! I can't watch, Kieron! It's too tense!

Extra History

Haha, there we go! Job done.

Christina Maria Jessen

It is. Only one that I'd be a bit disappointed to see win is the War of the Roses, which has been talked to death and heavily mythologized. In addition to continuing the general trend of international historical discourse to favor English and American topics. Now, you've been good about spreading attention throughout Europe and the Arab world, as well as some in East Asia, it's more of a general thing. The other three are hugely important topics and while the Peloponnesian War is covered more than the other two, all of them are somewhat underserved in general.

Jessica Cheeri

I'd like the Seven Years' War one, but I think it'd almost have to be broken down by region just for how many things it changed globally

Byron Becker

The connection is simple: He started the whole thing ;D

GooGhoul

It's a three way tie for first place right now?!

Kieran Elliott

Aw, the only one not in the running is my suggestion of the Pelopennisian War. Oh well, maybe one day.

fahesco

Oh god, the libertadores topic (or topics very similar to it, ex. Simon Bolivar) have been reappearing in these votes so often, and every time I vote for them, and every time it's just barely not enough ;_;

schuyler

the 1 duke of new castle Thomas Pelham Holles who was a close frend and protege of Robert walpole and later prime minster witch he and his bro Henry Pelham who is considered the 3 prime minister of the UK.

Extra History

I'm mostly just tickled that you liked every topic so much you had to talk yourself through choosing which one(s) to vote for. ;)

Extra History

I like to think voting for all four still shows how much enthusiasm people have for the topics in general. :)

Extra History

This is a really tight race with a lot of great options. I'm a Classics nerd who loves Thucydides and even I'm not sad to see Peloponnesian War in last place in the moment... and of course, it was in second place last night, so being last place with a day and a half to go apparently means nothing to the final vote results.

Extra History

I am still 100% willing to do a preferential voting system if we can get the actual system in place for one! Especially with this one currently featuring a three-way tie, I have a feeling it would impact things a bit. Though I would miss the drama. 8-) ___ Re: Libertadores, we'd be focusing on Gran Colombia (which I just realized that I misspelled - correcting that now). James really hasn't decided what constitutes the "Beginning" of the War of the Roses, hence the subtitle. I had more dramatic subtitles picked out but he said these were more descriptive, and he is correct about that!

Extra History

I've never seen a three way tie like this before. We had a two-way tie that ultimately got decided by one vote, but that was it. I wonder if it's possible for this one to be even closer?

Extra History

Yeah, I don't think he'll show up directly in this, but it sure will make it easy for James to find a Walpole Connection at the end. ;)

Antti Björklund

Now it's tied with the Seven Years War.

Extra History

Persistence pays off. ;)

Nessf

It's winning now - by a whole four votes. This is going to be another close one.

RMS Oceanic

It's a little after his time, he left office in the 1740s

Stephen

The beauty of approval voting - You can vote for as many as you like (Though voting for all four is mathematically equivalent to not voting)

Stephen

Hey, I consider it to have been close enough to winning to count when you decided to do Mary Seacole as a two parter after having suggested it for many a consecutive month...

Jeffrey Schneider

I'm surprised War of the Roses isn't winning. I had the impression people were clamoring for it because its parallels to Game of Thrones.

schuyler

I picked the 7 years becuse wallpole.

Marco Honrade

Excellent choices this time, I would like to see all of them become series eventually; still wish we had preferential voting. I have faith you'll do great job regardless of which topic wins. As a rule of thumb I vote for the topic I want to know more about and the topic I think is more important for everyone to know, though I would like a better idea on how you cover each of the topics before I vote since those description are rather vague. For the War of the Roses what constitutes the Beginning part? the end of Edward III's reign to the capture of Henry VI? I think you can reasonably cover the Peloponnesian Wars in 6 episodes. Will Libertadores cover Latin American Wars of Independence from Haiti to Argentina or the formation and collapse of Gran Colombia. The Seven Years' War is consider by some historians as the first global war.

Nessf

Yeah - the way the voting works here is you select all the topics you're interested in. Whichever gets the most total will, eventually, be a series.

RMS Oceanic

You can vote for both of them. Heck, you can vote for all four if you wanted

Christina Maria Jessen

Voting for Gran Columbia, the world really needs more South American and African history in general, and the Seven Years War which really was a massively important event that people seem to have agreed not to talk about.

Christina Maria Jessen

I look forward to seeing how that parade of fail, miscommunication, brittle arrogance and sheer wtf plays out. I'll give a teaser for how weird it can get. The Chinese high commissioner of fighting opium was convinced that Europeans need rhubarb to live, so when nothing else worked he threatened to halt rhubarb exports until opium smuggling was ended. And to not just make the Chinese look stupid, the British consul in Canton decided that picking a fight with China while only having a couple of ships full of refugees as his army was a good idea.

RMS Oceanic

Great choices! I'm reasonably up to speed with the War of the Roses - the two starting points I'd recommend is either Richard II being deposed or the end of the Hundred Years War - and Mike Duncan is already covering Gran Colombia, so I vote for the Seven Years War and the Peloponnesian War, and my first choice is the latter because I could do with learning more about Greek History to complement my Roman History.

Paul Grodt

This is my first chance to vote, and, wow, it is not an easy one by a long shot. I find myself conflicted: should I vote for my favorite topic or should I vote for the one about which I know the least? I will have to think about this. I can at least say that I am super-excited to learn that the opium wars is up next. That's a mind-blowingly interesting and extremely important topic.