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Newly Summoned Demoness 2 - Chapter 2 – Artificery and Plots

🕑 Added 2023-11-16 00:27:46 +0000 UTC

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bob barker

well that was interesting. thank you

Jonathan Wint

Way off-topic. But it depends on our modern definition of Evil. And even Demon. Shedim, The Zohar classifies them as those who are like humans and submit to the Torah have no fear of God. They are usually used as an explanation for The gods spirits of foreigner like me. 👍 I bring them up Because it probably What a Rabbi would Classify Elania as. P.S. I'm not presumptuous enough to just go around Making random statements about other people's religions. I actually disgussed The subject with several rabbis in the past and some of their students. Wonderful people. Christianity only had demons and angels. So if you wear not a Christian you worship Evil and must die. But Judaism was more flexible and respectful of pagans. And I asked why. So basicaly not being Jewish and worshipping pagan gods did not make the pagan or his gods automatically EVIL or imaginary. Jews believe their God Supreme and pagans believe their God's are Supreme . Not good enough reason to fight or argue over Attitude. So Viking by example could do trade and even be freinds with Hebrews.

bob barker

a bit off topic but I'm pretty curious what "not evil demons in Jewish tradition" actually means, considering that a lot of Jews have the following text as part of their Talmudic religious instruction: Talmud, Rashi Ereget Erod.22 30: A goy is like a dog. The scriptures teach us that a dog deserves more respect than a goy. Talmud Iebhammoth 61a: Jews have a right to be called "men", not the goyim. Talmud Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b: The souls of the goyim come from unclean spirits called pigs. Talmud Kerithuth 6b p. 78: The Jews are human, not the goyim, they are animals. Talmud, Schene Luchoth Haberith p. 250b: Although a goy has the same appearance as a Jew, he behaved toward Jews in the same way that a monkey to a man. Talmud Tosaphot, Jebamoth 94b: When eating in the presence of a Goy is like you eat it with a dog. Talmud Yebamoth 98a: All children goyim are animals. Talmud Babha Batra 54b: The property of a goy belongs to the first Jew claiming it. Talmud Babha Kama 113a: Jews can lie and perjure himself, if to deceive or condemning a goy. Talmud, Baba Mezia 24a: If a Jew finds an object belonging to a goyim, it is not required to return it. Talmud Choschen Ham 183, 7: Jews who cheat a goy should share the benefit equally. Talmud Iore Dea 157, hagah 2: If a Jew has the ability to fool a goy, he can do it. Talmud Schabbouth Hag 6d: Jews may swear falsely using double meaning phrases, or any other subterfuge. Talmud Abhodah Zarah 4b: You can kill a goy with your own hands. Talmud Bammidber Raba c Jalkut 21 & 772: Every Jew who sheds the blood of goyim amounts to the same as an offering to God. Talmud, Sanhedrin 57a: If a Jewkills a goy, he will not be sentenced to death. What a Jew steals from a goy, he can keep it. Talmud, Sepher Or Israel 177b: If a Jew kills a goy, it is not a sin. Talmud, Zohar II 64b: The goyim birth rate must be diminished materially. Talmud, Sefer Ikkarim III c25: It is allowed to take the body and the life of a goy. Talmud Chagigah 15b: A Jew is always considered good, in spite of sins he may commit. It's always the shell that gets dirty, never his own background. Talmud, Sanhedrin 52b: Adultery is not defended with the wife of a goy, because Moses has prohibited adultery with "the wife of thy neighbor," and goyim are not coming. Talmud Iore Dea 147, 5: ...must mock objects of goy worship, it is forbidden to wish well to a goy. Talmud Iore Dea 148, 12 H: We can pretend to rejoice with the goyim for their holidays, so this allows to hide our hatred. Talmud Zohar I 160a: Jews must always try to deceive the goyim.

Jonathan Wint

They wanted to defeat the overworld if they are evil would pretty much depend on why they want you concure it. If the overworld forces people to live in the underworld threw taxes or force so they to fight monsters and mine resouced.. as a slave serf class and never in their lives see the sun then that pretty justified. Basically we got to see the context to the desire to defeat the overworld.

Alasdair Macmillan

Indeed - the only black mark against the Black Candle was the actions of the leader. Of course there was the bit where they tried to summon a demon to destroy the overworld, but the first part of that was pretty legit, since it sounds like their whole economy runs on demon power. As for the second part... I guess we'll find out later how honourable that wish was.

Jonathan Wint

You all relise the cult even if led by a Evil jackass doesn't make the cult itself evil...And Elania might be wrong.. what if she is thier God and simply missing those memories. Few ways that can happen. ...... She might get a memory reset everytime she dies and gets resummoned.. She might of originally summoned hundreds of years ago and start over a summoned girl from earth each time she dies and recreated by the system from a back up. Anther possibly is she is time traveling. And yet anther she was always a demon died and reincarnated on earth as human and summoned. A interesting possibly as earth does have fairly common DEMON sightings even in modern times in every culture not even all demons are even considered evil. Take Asian and Indian traditions and muslim even a few "not evil demons in Jewish tradition". And some can breed with humans and pass as humans or even inhabiting human bodies reviving resent dead or still borns. So what if She gets back and finds out mana is a thing on earth and she is a demon still? Power intact. Always a demon? What if demons walk the Earth or .....What if this is modern 21st century Earth ! In our modern and achient mythology there supposed to be a Hollow Earth Giant cavern system filled with demons and monsters . With primative and advanced cities. What if the only thing change was her location? Mana is kept secret or forgotten on the true surface. What if the surface is earth or just anther layer and they highest layer is 21st Earth with no idea what's under thier feet? And she comes out the north or south pole. What if she's just in hollow earth and mana works there. Or more common. And Admiral Bird's story was true? And he was on the surface of Yolani's world is Agartha (holow earth) I mean, that's exactly what Hollow Earth is supposed to look like at least the caverns is supposed to look like. There are so many other possibilities. But basically I am saying what if the cult not evil. And what if it was just the leader maybe he sabotage the summon to control his goddess? And what if hear anther dark thought. ELANIA NOT ELANIA AT ALL but just got the earth girl's memories instead of her own ? Thanks to the Bishop hoping to get her into a airtight contract to control his goddess? Or he reset her memories to her first life?

Aphanvahrius

They said it at the beginning. Conquer the Overworld.

Meganclare7

Thank you for the chapter, I'm new basically because of this. I couldn't wait on rr so here I am I wasn't sure you where continuing so this is a nice surprise!

Erios909

There are only two chapters, you think I should revise them? :o The first two chapters are basically showing the new normal that Elania and Yolani have settled in after the end of book 1. The cult hasn't been at the fore-front of their thoughts, because this is the first time they showed up since Relain was obliterated.

Tavon Runecaster

the cult just cant give up on her huh

Revan694

I'm confused as to the cults ideology... Even if the leader was just looking for a minion, I'm assuming the whole cult didn't just pop out of nowhere. There normally is a reason for people to join... new members don't just pop into existence. Unless they do because they are summoned? There's a lot of background lore missing... about the whole world really. The lore is hinted at being available, just that the main character doesn't know it. And that's fine, but there's a point where mysterious lore becomes annoying. That point is when a person could have reasonably found out about that lore. Elania has access to the highest levels of government in a Divine type city. As a Divine being she knew of the cult and judged the other leaders as though the cult was common knowledge. Sure she forgot the episode, yet hasn't even asked a barkeeper if they ever heard of the cult. Might want to revise a few chapters.

M. Lampi

Suggestion: "show off something artifcey to Yolani," ==> "show off something artificey to Yolani," (yes, it's still not really a word, but looks better to me)

M. Lampi

I wonder what the cult thinks Elania will do for them.

M. Lampi

Wow! Two chapters in one day! Thank you.


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