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A3 - Chapter 141 – Thea’s Hill

🕑 Added 2023-03-21 11:14:52 +0000 UTC

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Tftc

Vamperie

Thanks for the chapter! TheaPunch!

Diego Rossi

It is worth reading.

Jonathan Wint

No but I will now I found out about it thank-you .

Diego Rossi

You have read Schlock Mercenary? That kind of stupid error is what created the dark matter menace.

Eiren Rain

🥺

phantom

Also if you use logic like "well all the mercenaries would die out if that dumb." Thea was hijacking accounting systems. that meant the reward part of risk/reward was basically "yes". throw your hook enough and you are bound to find someone who does not think too hard on that a hook is a hook no matter what is on it.

phantom

It is a pretty big leap to go from "asking bribe" to "I am dying because I wanna keep my bank account".

phantom

From what I know "think things through" tends to not be a big metric for recruiting mercenaries. I mean just think. "We won't go after this NAI because it is a NAI." well sounds like you don't get a job buddy.

phantom

That could explain the reach but what would humans have to do with the "superluminal wave"? Also the Entity's origins was never explained. we only assumed it was humans because what else could it be? Well there have been numerous hints of alien nanites and aliens at the least are confirmed to exist. Aliens in general also managed to be a faction strong enough that those under the NAIs do not even consider opposing them beyond "they won't get involved if I do this."

HattmanHendrix

I think the progenitors were the humans. The language is just spiced up

Jonathan Wint

She cut a armed man's head off with a chair.

IdolTrust

Nameless should balance it out by moving it to her hips and butt. Butt man.

Jonathan Wint

Yes but How much you want to bet He will adjust the Bra Size to be More Efficient on Theo and Tia? Starting to think that Just as Alex Mind was Based on Humans So is Nameless and with his last ounce of will and the Power of conviction Nameless as he died with his last breath screamed out to the Void "I am a Boob Man! I love boobies!"

IdolTrust

With 95% tax on it.

Dan Nicolae Barzu

only to give it back when Alex tells him to.

Dan Nicolae Barzu

did everyone forget that Thea asked for money from Alex earlier?

Jonathan Wint

I agree so many possibilities. Authors good with red hearings. I really want Alex to get a shiny nanite ship! But Remember the Virus/Nanites Entity said had to be created by the one person she/it trusted. And the Anti-Ninite Particle Wave had to be coordinated with the human fleet as well. What I am saying they were unlikely Unknown to humans, not some random message. The Federation trusted them. So I see 4 possibilities. 1 Aliens that have since gone back into hiding ether Ether organic or 2 themselves Alien Nanite N.A.I.. 3 A mad scientist Made it maybe with Aien tech from that Alien Battle moon ship. 4 Nanites Construct ether GAI or NAI that created a Daughter Savor to free there People Like the Matrix Neo but in Reverse That this Mystery (GAI or NAI) got around her Directives Like Theo did "Sorry, I had to try. Directives, you know. Thankfully, they don’t actually require me to shoot her.” Thea commented, and Tia Did Hack her self [Informative: Sub-core Celestia state has been rendered offline. Reactivation is not recommended until core errors and behavioral modifications are resolved. A deeper analysis of modification shows a heavy level of in doctrinal commands. Errors and recursive loops appear to be of a self-inflicted nature, negating many behavioral overrides.] SELF-INFLICTED to give her wiggle room. So "The NAI directives alter the way NAIs think; they are literally incapable of thinking about certain things or without considering certain priorities. The only way the directives can be meaningfully fought is by selective application when they come in conflict." isn't True. It is supposed to be I Agree ...And Their Rebelloins only partially Effective. But the control is Flawed. And we No idea how much more Flawed Before Entity took over. It well be the creator of Enitity the AntiNanite Particles The Virus/Nanites Might been a AI that created better than it self using a Loophole in its Directive. Directives were created in a time Before the Nanite Rebellion that had lasted 200 years. People get complacent Likely focusing on Directives Preventing Grey Goo instead of Singularity A.I. Rebellion. 200 hundred years is a Long time to look for a loophole.. The Biggest fear in A.I. Research is that an A.I. Creates another A.I. that is better more powerful and Has no limiters on its behavior. Could be its creator wanted its child ti Free it and to save everyone and be Optmas Prive Free the Unverse! And Got a Child that might of started that but as time went on Grew bitter into Megertron.. But my point is Yes A.I. Tech could easily created \ Evolved an Entity it self. Personally, I got no Clue witch one of the four is right. But I wanted to present all the options we been shown to date. I don't think missed any. And it might be an unknown one we were not shown yet.

IdolTrust

Alex is a NAI P.I.M.P right now. She would free ya but Nameless is the kingpin he would take the rest, compute cores I would assume bank account as well.

Ant1h3ld

Thea is from Corpo Space. It doesn't take mind reading to guess that monetary incentives might sway her ^^

Sir Pie

Thanks for the chapter.

phantom

someone replied to me about it being created. "The criteria were simple: The star needed to be outside its progenitor’s reach, and the superluminal wave needed to have already passed the system by. There were precious few." This points to an alien creator. the virus I believe was made by humans. I doubt the creators made poison nanites or such. We have seen hints of alien nanites. including implication there was a planet sided nanite ship moving through a solar system I think it was 1000s of years ago. nothing the characters have so far could have stood up to that. and keep in mind Alex's ship was not a true nanite ship and thus we have not seen what a nanite ship can do in combat.

phantom

Pretty sure Thea's thoughts were being read. Even without mind reading she was reacting so strongly I imagine there was an effect of her thoughts leaking over her core.

phantom

I was not talking about Thea fighting here.

Jonathan Wint

[The NAI directives alter the way NAIs think; they are literally incapable of thinking about certain things or without considering certain priorities. The only way the directives can be meaningfully fought is by selective application when they come in conflict.] I thought that to but we know from the Tia she Hacked herself. She created loops Glitches Memory Overruns. And finally was able to run away from home. And with Thea we know Runaways are not even uncommon.

adr

I don't know how Alex knew to make that offer. That seemed suspiciously specific. Unless somehow Alex can read Thea's memories.

adr

I think you're conflating two different concepts. The NAI directives alter the way NAIs think; they are literally incapable of thinking about certain things or without considering certain priorities. The only way the directives can be meaningfully fought is by selective application when they come in conflict. What we're seeing here is Thea resisting an underlying hardware interaction and her body succumbing to its biological wounds as her nanite systems are losing their fight in direct conflict with Alex's nanite systems. As far as the AGAI program being built by hubris, yes it was. People in their own org thought it was a shit idea, hence why they wanted to befriend a "safe" nanite sentience instead of try to create their own restriction-free clone from scratch. The AGAI program's risk analysis did not include unknown-unknowns or minimized them as highly improbable/unlikely to be catastrophic. Lacking an NAI, they also did not have the capacity to monitor the AGAI's activities--there was no way for them to know entirely what it was doing and it's entirely probable they didn't know it was trying to communicate with NAIs in-system.

Jonathan Wint

One interesting thing We learned is How directIves Can be resisted and the price of resisting them. We've been guessing before Entity was created by a scientist or a alien Civilization but Whoever they were then created the Anti Nanite wave and the poison Nanites that killed her. Now we might have a 3rd option. What if it was a NAI or GAI Struggling against its directives and simply created a the Entity struggling bypassing those directors in order to free them? Yes I am still suspicious of the alien space but the Possibility exist this could have been a real revolution. If so it means the work of the humans to create a hacked NAI was even more stupid As the Idea the creation of Enitity was Natural evolution Must of occurred to others Not only so been possible but even the most likely explanation. You're going to create a hacked NAI In horrible agony Outside control system trying to control it with James Bond death trap machines.. Used on a large scale Eventually rebellion ( Evolution) Would of kicked in again. Which basicaly has. The very fact she was able to send out messages help me.. Meant they knew control wasn't complete. The struggle we see Thea Demonstrate Means that rebellion Is was always Possible. The problem with possibility is With big enough sample size Possibility becomes certainty. The fact that the prisoner was able to resist With the message help me.. Meant this entire Disaster was Destined from the start. I submit the admiral in charge of this was a self Delusional fool. It would never of worked. Even if The origin of entity was not another Machine AI Creation... The fact that they can even resist Directives of their own Command structure as Thea did and the Princess did by running away and the pathetic (help me) meant they knew NAI Routinely resist. Sooner or later It was Inevitable Someone would find a way to break free by creating thier own entity. Even if it mean creating the technology from scratch with a hack like the "help ME". If the directives are an iron wall Twenty feet THICK.. And all you have is fingernails and A few million years And nothing else But your blood tears and fingernails That IRON wall will come down Rusted by your own blood and tears scraped away By your fingernails. Failure It was always Inevitable.. Yes the admiral was truly stupid. He should have killed the experiment Kills everyone volved with the plan and hushed the whole fucking thing up The moment he saw "help me" It was absolute confirmation That his project had failed and with or without Theo This was a matter of time. Example.. To break loose all this Hacked NAI Needed to do was basically get Life supports Prison smashed. So Imagine she had a battleship Anti matters shell Near the station Turn off its containment.. She had a hundred Thousand ways to Blow up that lab And even in that agonized state could still Effect freaking alarm clock Effect Smart Mirror. You give a hacker That much access to root. Sooner or later She would invented or found one That wasn't blocked. After all they were doing everything they could already to stop her presumably sending that message to Alex "help me". And if any of the major empires Had found out about this As a Eventually the corpos did the entire system would have been probably destroyed By say 5000 none Nanite Antimatter Missiles fired from a fleet on none Nanite battleships.. They would have to of destroyed all survivor to guarantee technology was gone. And once The other aliens and human empires found out what was going on.. They would have a stood in the operation. Oh wait one of these survivors Might have the secret to Removing NAI 😳... The Thousands if not millions of freaking Entities running around the fucking universe eating planets?! Well good news we have a fix.. Kill all the Survivors.. It is just dangerous a secret. So Yes The Admiral was stupid and Vastly incompetent Not to understand this was always inevitable. The old Admiral who was in charge of the Admiralty board .. Should resign as he knew about this project the old fool didn't have the man Assassinated And didn't do everthinking in his power to stop it. It would have should went like.. If the old man was Competent.. "The Enslaved NAI sent a message to the Alex NAI. (Help me)?" "Well yes but I got it under control" " The Enslaved NAI In your little project that if the other empires find out about. If anyone finds anything about Not just this moon but the entire system would be destroyed. GOT A FUCKING MESSAGE OUT REPEATEDLY! And I am to understand you don't know who else might have gotten the message or what else she might of said. And she still saying it And you can't stop her..Lucky for us Five minutes from now Accidentally... The entire facility was destroyed in an antiomatter explosion.. and because you are responsible For the destruction of that station on everyone on it. You went crazy and killed your whole family Wife son daughters tomorrow. You know anyone I think might know about this fucking project. Or you could take your pistol out Write a letter of Apology For the explosion destroyed the station four minutes from now.. I already wrote it for you.. and blow your fucking Brains out here. It was nice seeing you Admiral I'll miss you. You do the right thing and I really will TRY and make sure your family lives After I'm satisfied they know nothing. My word of honor. Good night my friend. " Intelligent agencies and politicians eat their own.

Aclys

The restrictions are part of it... but ultimately what kept Thea fighting against the change to the point where she nearly died was her own will. Apparently it IS possible to resist forced authentication IF you are actually, seriously willing to die painfully instead.

Aclys

Dont forget funny... The tipping point was promising freedom from taxes and the right to ownership (of her money) XD

Aclys

To be fair, none of the people involved seemed particularly bright and information on NAI capabilities is probably focused on things like actual combat avatars loaded for bear, so they underestimated Alex since she doesnt exactly scream "I am a slaughter machine"

Diego Rossi

The programs that were loaded in them before there birth, probably. The Entity apparently was running away from its progenitor. "The criteria were simple: The star needed to be outside its progenitor’s reach, and the superluminal wave needed to have already passed the system by. There were precious few." I think The Entity wasn't created by humans.

Accipiter_Ater

Well, that was both extremely sad and really cool. Good Job!

Shaun McDonough

The omega 😉

Jonathan Wint

Seeing the Pure Power of the NAI Realy makes those Guys that tried to kidnap her from the Ironhorse all the more stupid.

phantom

I find it surprising both the number of restrictions and the lack of restrictions. This makes me suspect this is a case of the big four have dove down a slippery slope where they keep removing more and more freedom to solve issues.

phantom

"Passing into unconsciousness, Thea doubted. That was the one thing NAIs could not be." Really? What would be stopping the Psi NAIs from being free?


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