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[Important Notice] Membership Pricing & Content Update
🕑 Added 2021-06-22 15:15:07 +0000 UTCHey guys!
There will be important changes happening starting July 1st. Here are the details as to why:
Basically, Vimeo (where I host my videos) has reached out to me 3 months ago saying that my account is taking way more bandwidth consumption than they allow for the plan that I was in. Bandwidth in video hosting is the amount of data your website can transfer to your users in a given amount of time.
In order for me to continue on with the uploads, I was told I needed to upgrade to their Enterprise Plan, otherwise I could not continue my account as excessive bandwidth consumption was a breach of contract for that particular plan. I took Zoom meetings with Vimeo in order to come to an agreement for the cost of the plan that they have for me. Because my videos are being viewed in large amounts and after negotiating, my Enterprise Plan came down to approximately $10,000/year.
No exaggeration.
I can provide you the invoice if you’re needing proof haha. This is currently the highest price for a react channel. Even though Form Of Therapy has more patrons, they are only being charged $5000-$6000 as per their posts. I don’t know why mine costs more.
My current plan gives me 176,000gb of bandwidth for a two-year timeframe. That is 88,000gb per year. Now, it’s only been 3 months and I’m already at 35,000gb. That’s nearing halfway and I just started the plan. This is one of the reasons why I don’t upload more at a time and react to all the popular suggestions. I have looked at other hosting options but there is no guarantee that they wouldn’t block my content for copyright.
In short, it’s either I increase the membership pricing or stop uploading for several weeks to a couple of months to manage bandwidth consumption.
I really appreciate the support and the interest in my videos but the more content there is to react to and the more videos I upload, the more it will cost to run this account. All my videos are under 5gb size so the data transferred over aren’t as big but alas, we’re still in this situation.
SO, here are the changes:
- All content from the $1 tier will be transferred over to the $5 tier except Immortal Songs which will be put in the $3 tier.
- All completed and future Kdramas, concerts/documentaries, award season videos will all be transferred to the $5 tier. She Would Never Know will stay in $3 tier until it is completed and then will be transferred over as well the following month (August).
- Variety shows and Reality shows (not survival shows-related) will stay in the $3 tier as well as behind recordings, select live stages and vlogs. For now.
- Content tier transfers will start happening on July 1st CST.
If you need or want to upgrade, here is the how-to.
For those that want to, the $10 tier is available if you are wanting to give more support in this matter.
The transfer of content will allow me to pay for the overage of bandwidth that I am anticipating as the months go on and I add more popular content. As much as possible I don’t want to go above $5/month for content but it has become costly to run the business side of content creation. With that said, I cannot promise that further future pricing increase won’t happen but I will hold as long as I can.
I apologize to those who will be affected by the content transfer and are unable to upgrade tiers. I have always championed to provide the least expensive membership pricing as possible for you guys but it has come to a point where there are external entities that prevent me from doing so.
I appreciate your support and understanding. I know that a lot of you appreciate the content I upload and I would hate to halt uploads because of technical things like bandwidth.
Jeff
Comments
Diana Chicas
I hope one day you react to DKB! I feel like you’d really enjoy their choreography :)
Olivia
Youtube obviously can still see videos even when they're private.
Olivia
Can you please react to Lisa's We Rock dance performance and her mentoring sessions in Youth With You? Thank you! Also, love love your videos! Btw, when can we see you dance? I feel like you're a great dancer and performer with the way you discuss and explain each performance!
Lawresha
Please react to hyunjin play with fire skz player his dance is amazing
strange& sleepless
I think certain things such as Kdramas get copyright striked even if the video is not listed
Setres09 .
And admittedly, I could watch more content from you with YouTube because Vimeo is crap and won't load so I rarely get to watch your patreon anyway
Setres09 .
So possibly a dumb question, but for videos, why not YouTube just make the videos private? That way they can only be viewed by people who have the link you provide them with here on Patreon, and you don't have to pay to post the videos
Missy
twitch can only store stream for 2 weeks max, and they currently scan and block video, song, or even just a short BGM within the stream for copyrights. So I don't think he should use it.
Oriane Corral
Are you thinking about streaming on twitch for example ? That would be a good solution !
Anu Harvey
$5 and even $10 is completely reasonable, you’re creating content and I’m quite happy to pay for it. And with people switching up from $3 to $5 and a few $10 patrons, it should help out even if you lose some of the $1 patrons.
allie avbdi
It would be so fun if you covered more classic/must watch kdramas ( that are light hearted). Its super intresting to notice like what was more popular before compared to know, what genre dramas bacķ then was compared to know and the difference in acting! :)
allie avbdi
Hi jeff, I started watching ur patreon more because i feel bored watching netflix alone so watching with someone and with your high quality editing, sound and experience its worth the money for me❤ thank you giving us extra content❤❤❤
seth james
oh wow im flattered! haha thank u
seth james
oh wow. 13k damn. that is insane. I will try and find a way to keep my bandwidth under control. don't want to pay more T_T
Vera Conceição
Taking into account that i've canceled Netflix because i watch you instead i will gladly support you at the 10$ tier for a few months.
S H
Have appreciated the long and detailed reactions you've done so far. Never realised Vimeo charges like this. I think probably creators get hit with a large bill especially if you're uploading longer content for patreons since longer content = more bandwidth consumed to watch that 1 video.... Or maybe the availability of older content can be rotated to help manage the costs? And new content is made available for 1 month before being put into rotation? Gonna upgrade to the $5 tier now even thought the current series being reacted to aren't really my interest area. I was really here for hit the stage, dancing high and the unit but those were long and detailed reactions which I really appreciated!
Daniel Secundino
That sucks. But it's OK. We all gonna work to survive don't worry. Suggestion: have you look into live streaming like twitch to react to videos. I've seen some people react in live streams. That way you can knock down many videos at once and have a chance to interact with you audience while watching
ouo
Hi Jeff, thank you for letting us know and for brainstorming ways to solve this issue! I just want to clarify about Form of Therapy's videos on Vimeo: they use multiple accounts and one of them was hit with a $13k bill recently. So I do think they're using more bandwidth (definitely across all accounts, the $13k was only for posts on one day of the week) and are paying more for it. Also, I really appreciate how affordable you've kept your Patreon before this point! Not to mention the quality of your videos over here and on YouTube.
KNN
yeah, I think Dailymotion is a good choice, too
Brissett
You don't need to provide us the invoice, we trust you. that's why we are here because we value your work since the moment we know you really put your effort and that you are an honest content creator. Is comprehensive you have to express what is happening with vimeo and I appreciate you can openly communicate with us. Please do what you have to do. We will support you.
camille
$10 is only for extra support. All content is still unlocked for $5
Juda Culp
Hey Jeff, new subscriber here, I just wanted to let you know maybe something to look into is to use what is call Crowdcast, it is a live streaming platform where you can livestream and save the streams for people to see after it is done. You can stream up to 6 hours I believe. It would take away your ability to edit the video and you would have to go live, but it gives you at least another platform you could potentially use 👍🏽
Shanz
will gladly upgrade
seth james
ohh i see. i had that too prior to this enterprise plan but they somehow caught it. idk how cause i used different emails. maybe it’s the credit card info...
Allina Khan
Honestly I have found your pricing to always be reasonable. It sucks you are dealing with this but I will gladly upgrade :)
seth james
i wouldn’t want to delete videos as there are always new people discovering my channel. not too familiar with twitch but i’m not fond of streaming reactions. to chat with you guys is ok but to actually react, ehh lol
Javi-Aloi
I just started supporting you some weeks ago even tho i have been watching your channel since pretty much the beggining, so if i can i will continue to support you, i totally understand your needs for higher princing and i was actually surprised that you charged so low for so much work that gets put onto your reactions, especially the survival show ones. Either way im happy that you are being so transparent with your patreons and im going to continue to support!
Doyoungismyult
Why don’t you start a twitch…or delete certain videos after a couple of months. Would that help at all?
doyoung's hat
10$?!!?! i dont have problem to pay that but with the tax it becomes so expensive and I'm from Russia so basically my payment depends on currency changes... this suck i guess i can pay that only once in half a year 😑 but anyway it's understandable
Ebony Coco
Jeff, Form of Therapy uses multiple Vimeo accounts to split up their content so it isn't all on one account which is why they have been able to avoid paying more. But even still doing that, they have ran into some issues too. Your pricing/content changes are reasonable, and I will content to support you!
Meghan
Jeff if you can reach out to Say What Reacts' Anitra she went through the same thing and more with Vimeo and she can help with all of the options. She mostly uses Dailymotion now and breaks the reactions up into hour long parts. But there's also ok.ru a Russian site and some other options. Not So Daily uses both Vimeo and Dailymotion. Dailymotion has a password protect function. I personally can't always do $10 tiers and usually only do them for a few months at a time then swap out. As long as you keep us updated on what is where and I can see where you are at I will probably go back and forth from the $5 and the $10 tiers. I currently have the $5 tier and really love your reactions to kdramas and the reality competition shows. I understand you've got to do what you've got to do. Just keep up the communication and it's all good.
apple crumble
i love how transparent you are! we are here to support you jeff!
seth james
unfortunately patreon doesn't embed dropbox videos. and I want to protect my content so sharing links is a no-no haha. they can easily be copied and shared outside of patreon :(
Kelly B B D
I'm sorry for that and that sucks! But you will always have my support for as long as I can! Your videos are informative, fun and of quality so keep going! 🔥
Samantha
Honestly I think that ur prices have always been the cheapest across most of the kpop partreons that I’ve looked at (atm I only consistently subscribe to u and Form of Therapy but I’ve check out others’ plans). I’m always willing to pay a few dollars more to help my fave patreons keep on going for whatever reason but I know that’s not something everyone can afford to do. Personally, I say price it to what u need to keep creating the content YOU want to create, I think a majority of us on here would support u no matter what! 🥰🥰🥰💖💖💖 Good luck!!!
Mahmudah A
Wow so expensive, i'm new to this patreon thingy, but i subscribe to 2 patreons, you and the other patreon, the other patreon use dropbox, maybe you can use that?
seth james
thank u!
seth james
unfortunately I have to protect my content and links can easily be shared :(
seth james
oh yes thank you for reminding me! edited!
Kiwi Space
Wow, thats alot to pay, I hope you find a better solution! I have you tried posting your videos using Google Drive? Some people I support on pateron don't use Vimeo and just post using the Google Drive with a link, especially for hour long varieties/dramas. I will always support whatever you do! FIGHTING!❤
Natalia Kuroś
After reading this I've updated my plan from 5 to 10 dollars 💸 Worth every cent 💜💚💙
Talar Ayda
That sucks! It must be really stressing for you. I know you work hard and honestly your pricing is really reasonable just like other commenters said it. I like your content a lot and I’ll keep supporting you!
Althea Nera
for the quality of your uploads i really think its still a reasonable price!! urs are actually one of the cheapest one here in patreon and im so greatfulllll!! especially for the amount of vids u post. 🥺🥺🥺💖
Marcia
Yeah, that sucks. It's freaking expansive. I hope everything will work out fine. Oh and PD use they/them pronouns btw :)
Svenja Ebert
That really sucks for you Jeff! Don't worry so much about us. Yes, some of the Patreons might not be able to upgrade their tiers, but at the end of the day, you run a business. If you no longer at the very least break even with your patreon videos, then it wouldn't make sense to spend this much time and life hours into this. I would love to support you more, but unfortunately I can't spare more than 5$ per month because I'm still a student. Anyways, kepp it up and don't let vimeo pull you down!
RRR
You do what you gotta do. And honestly your pricing is reasonable. And I think it's worth it even if was 10 honestly. I know alot of small to mid tier reaction channels that start at 5 and move up to 20 for drama and album reaction which I think is insane. PS if you can, please react to SBS LOUD it's a new survival show you will love it.
2hyunies
That sucks 😓 well it’s not like you can do anything about it … I like your reactions so I’ll keep supporting you! Good luck👍🏼
