Angel || 3x14 || Discussion

John Alexander

Groo is Cordy's Riley. He's the "if things were different" guy.

Jamie Morgan

Yeah, I hate when the 'romantic rival' is written as a complete dick, because then the choice is too obvious. Cordy has a choice of two great men, that's way more interesting!

Koz

Groo’s a good guy. I always like the good guys. I like him even if I don’t prefer him and Cordy as a couple.

angelcakes

Fred and Gunn are the cutest ever!!!!!!!!

Ron Fehr

If you think about it, Cordy and Groo never actually knew each other for very long. Once the gang arrived in Pylea, the following events occurred happened within a matter of only a few days. So in a way, their relationship seems a little rushed, which to me is the same with Fred and Gunn. Perhaps that's why it's hard to ship those couples.

Mary Kate

This one is fun. Petty Angel is amazing. And even though the Grooselag is clearly a Cangel obstacle, he’s just so earnest and delightful I can’t help but love him. And now it’s prophecy time … 😬

Bd Blake

beep . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . beep . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . beep

KT

I'm also a bigger than average fan of this episode. It swings back and forth from wholesome to comical to melancholy like 20 times, but I think that jumbled tone really works in its favor and allows for that final shot to really pack a punch. And the relationship stuff would get tiresome if it were all just one thing, so they kept you on your feet the whole time. I honestly can't tell if this episode is ultimately sex positive or not though. Metaphors about women "losing a part of themselves" by having sex, but also there's a prophylactic for that metaphor? A lot to unpack.

Ray D

This episode has one of my all time favorite buffyverse characters, “Petty Angel”. I just love it. David just cracks me up when he’s doing the petty, jealous stuff.

Sesquipedaliant

Angel at end with Cordy saying, "Didn't hurt a bit," while we see a literal hole on his chest, as if his heart was ripped out, always hits me. And thier relationship might be the most natural, organic growth overtime, so always rooting for them.

Ron Fehr

True, but given the choice, possibly for sentimental reasons, I would opt for Wes. Although opting out of the romance angle may have been a better choice.

Will

On the other note I never saw the chemistry with Wes and Fred. Oh they're both smart nerds, clearly they MUST be together. It felt forced.

Nebraska

If Angel was a sitcom. Angel: Alright Connor, time to learn to play Mortal Kombat. Wes: Angel, he's an infant, he can't possibly Angel interrupts: Never too young to learn Wes, never too young to learn. Here Connor, grab the controller. Grab it. Go on and grab it. I'll just set in on your chest for you so you're ready when the game starts. *Wes polishes his glasses* Angel: Here, I'll go ahead and select Subzero for you. Alright, first match. Come on son, its like you're not even trying. HA, I totally killed you. Don't worry, you'll get better with practice. Gunn walks in: Finally found someone you could beat, huh. Wes: Phew, that's one prophecy out of the way.

I never saw the chemistry either.

Ron Fehr

That's true, and I admit I might just be making an excuse for why I feel that way. Maybe it's something else, but I just can't ship these two.

SpikesEcho

It's good to give characters more than one dimension

Ron Fehr

I just can't bring myself to care for the Gunn/Fred relationship. Maybe it's because I never pictured Gunn as the romantic type. He was built up to be seen as the muscle of the group, and this doesn't suit his personality in my opinion.

Eliza

How dare you Alley! Groo doesn't look like a twink! He looks like a twunk! 😂