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Chapter 68 - Elemental Magic

🕑 Added 2023-07-10 16:06:53 +0000 UTC

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Ao

wow nature magic sounds kinda scary, didnt really have a bio component as much as an instinct manipulation one. could imagine that being a setting detail of some shadowrun like world, with nature mages able to induce security lockouts or rapid iteration ai evolution

nicolas

I agree with most of your points. It would not work to explain how runes work in great details ( because it would probably be a big info dump with lot of technical things that no one would understand) Same thing for magic not being exactly coherent with physics. My point was less about magic using realistic physics and more about magic having clear and established rules that the reader can understand : like one needs to absorbe an element to use it or runes must be drawn perfectly (with an orange system skill) and have magic infused ink in order to work. Those rules don't need to stricly agree with physics but they inforce limitation on what the character can do. This way, it won't appear as a dues ex machina if he uses those power to solve a problem even if it's in an original way that has never been seen before but still respects the rules .

Vamsi Yerraguravagari

I am very curious if he has any explanation for how runes work. I mean why do we have to draw specific lines, patterns and so on. We just take it for granted right. In fact I do not think we know any rune pattern(how it looks) in this novel forget about how it works. No one had any problem about it till now including you. On that note, if we want to be realistic fire is not an element as it is just heat energy . Air itself is made up of different elements, so do water. For earth, I do not understand why it is considered as a single element as earth itself if a product of Oxygen, silicon, Iron, aluminum, calcium, sodium and may be more. So when he is controlling earth which element is he controlling. Same thing for water, air. In my opinion, all these elements is an imagination or in other words, the settings of many fantasy novels. Again, I am not saying I prefer novels with dues ex machina, frequent plot armour, power up when needed. Thats not my preference. If I did not like the setting and writing style of this novel, I would not be supporting it as a patreon.

nicolas

I disagree. There are a lot of fantasy books with magic almost entirely explained. For exemple, all Brandon Sanderson books have "Hard magic system" with very defined rules. As long as you go in depth, find limitations, costs, loopholes, and synergies, you can go very far with very simples idees. Having a defined system enables solving problem in very clever ways by finding new and interesting ways to use the magic instead of having a deus ex machina. The only real problem I see is finding the correct way to explain the magic system to not have an info dump and not make it too complexe so people can understand it.

Vamsi Yerraguravagari

Well, I am not saying I prefer no explanation, but just cautioning author that realistic explanations will hit a wall at some point. So, it is better not to be too dependent on giving explanation for each and every phenomenon.

nicolas

I also prefer realistic magic, and since the story has a more realistic approch than most fantasy I think that realistic magic fits it better most of the time (Even if some unexpained wonder is also good. Maybe in the worldbuilding or for very powerful magic user ? )

ZaA

I kinda disagree. Fantasy is about what could be. It's not that they defy reality, rather they're unrealistic.. but with magic now being realistic, it should somewhat fit into the laws of the universe. Even things like antimatter and dark matter follow them, even if we can't explain most of them. Magic could be the same. Some realistic, some unrealistic but still has rules, such as intent having an effect. Hell, look into videos of quantum entanglement and how intent actually affects. If magic was just about imagination and intent and whether or not you were born lucky enough for mana to like you it'd be boring and pointless. There'd be no learning. "Imagine better" ?

Andrea Pozzi

I agree, not everything needs to be explained. It's magic, not science. I might have gotten too much in my head. I already had a few ideas for things that 'just are' without explanation, but maybe I should add some more. Thanks for the comment :)

Vamsi Yerraguravagari

Thanks for the chapter. I think you are limiting yourself to provide realistic narrative on mana and magic. I am saying this because I do not see any incantations of the magic yet. The story is so far good but I am afraid you will hit a wall soon if the fantasy does not seem like a fantasy.

Stephen Pearson

Thanks for the chapter! :-)


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