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Chapter 54 - Procession

🕑 Added 2023-06-16 14:57:11 +0000 UTC

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Game Devil

Ok, I admit that made me laugh on a not so good day :) Thanks!

Game Devil

Glad to see I'm not the only one who crunches the numbers :)

Game Devil

More likely that finishing his father's work might give him some kind of favor and bonus. Since the ancient ruins might hold real knowledge about the spirits and secrets from the past that the invaders are undermining. I thought that might drive him to get to yellow before 14 and unlock professions earlier.

Stephen Pearson

Your math seems legit:-) And you're not wrong that it's an uphill battle - I mean, there's only 2 people in Greenside that have even made Orange 3, so it's not a huge surprise. That said, I think there's probably 3 tricks the author has up their sleeve: 1. What you actually do in a week is likely to affect life experience; in particular I suspect that part of training up his combat skills will be regularly hunting beasts, which should have a significant impact on the life experience side of the ledger. In chapter 45, after killing the red-ranked beast he triggered his experience just 2 days after his last trigger, and it was 316. This extrapolates out to 1106 life experience for the week if consistently maintained (1 red beast / 2 days?). How much of that was the novelty and creating a new orange skill remains to be seen, but I still expect it to be a source of XP. 2. Skills can and do evolve (I think?), and may start over at earlier levels (1?) when they do. I forget if that is supposed to happen at 100? Either way, he plans to remove a skill to get spears, and also plans to learn the orange skill empower. If you looks at the by-tier breakdown, you'll notice that with only 4 orange skills it generated 2/3 the experience of the 10 red skills despite gaining less than 1/4 of the actual levels, since they generate 3x the experience per level. So while they take longer to level, they are a more sustainable source of XP income... which makes sense, really, to need orange skills to power growth through orange racial tier. So between evolutions and increasing numbers of higher tier skills, this should also help a lot. And I have no doubt the author has plans for yellow-tier skills to show up, possibly soon-ish. After all, mana sense was one of his earliest skills, and helped a lot in his growth. 3. When he was first being interviewed for his apprenticeship she asked him if he had advanced his race through potions or equivalent; this implies that these mechanisms exist, and Dora seems to be a master alchemist with a bunch of high-mana herbs in her multi-stage greenhouse, so that's probably on the table. That said, I kind of expect them to want him to prove that he can reach at least yellow before he becomes eligible for that path, though I'll admit that's pretty arbitrary on my part. :-)

Louis Cypher

He’s clearly not.

MR.K .

I can totally see you point of view as well Stephen and I agree. Whatever the author lands on, I’m sure it’s whats best for them and will keep the story on its current level of excellence.

Aezy Ken

Are you serious?

Aezy Ken

Thanks! Okay looks like you're wayyy better at this. Thankfully because I suck. I've been wanting to figure out how much weekly xp (Life and skill xp) he'll need to hit Yellow before he turns 14, this is what I came up with: IF 100k, 200k, 400k progression, then he needs ~1925xp weekly. IF 100k, 120k, 140k, progression, then he needs ~1000xp weekly. You just mentioned so far he had ~220 life xp, the rest being skill xp. 220 life xp weekly for 3 months comes out to about ~2600xp. We're still missing ~23k xp which came from skills. Obviously that isn't sustainable. What do you think of all this? EDIT: Looking at it more, leveling a whole set of 7 Orange skills to lv100 nets 210k xp total. That's.. pretty good. If we assume the less xp progression (100k,120k,140k) that''s 360k total. With just the skill xp we get almost two thirds the way there. The missing 150k will need ~425 life xp weekly. Red skills will also be helping so likely less than that. I guess that makes it much more doable.

.m

Can the sister and mom and other sister all get killed? Like why do you need a cast at all. Then maybe kill off the mentors and the merchants. Then the townies. Then the Beasts. Then the insects. Basically I'm envisioning an empty city archipelago. Then dudebro can wuxia his hardest wuxia yet. Who needs characters or emotional stakes when you can be propelled by neuroticism and vanity? If he loses all perspective he can imagine himself preparing for a blowout confrontation with a mainland enemy and this novel can be tropical Jackal Among Snakes in orange, minus the cast and B-plots.

Stephen Pearson

That said, while that's all interesting I trust the author to make the choice that works best for them, and continue to tell an enjoyable and engaging story, even if it ends up being the 'shouldn't have looked away' option:-)

Stephen Pearson

:rofl: Fwiw, normally I don't put that sort of thing together, but I had fun with it:-)

Andrea Pozzi

Wow, that’s better than what I use lol Glad I didn’t botch the numbers XD

Stephen Pearson

Interesting analysis! There has certainly been darkness used in this story to set motivation, and it has successfully been central to believable and satisfying character development. There's even a new person ready to be the focus of his helping tendencies in place of his slightly-older sister if you're right and she dies (which Kea seems to really drive towards with her recklessly aggressive personality). That said, I'd personally prefer the clean save; it feels better, he already has enough motivation for the moment, and for a loss this major it seems important to set it up properly and have it be meaningful. A sudden 'you took your eye off her and look now she's dead' isn't satisfying and feels bad. I know there's been foreshadowing with the knife and all, but I'd still expect larger events where the outcome could be foreseen and his efforts may be insufficient to be the lead up to anything of that magnitude.</$.02>

Stephen Pearson

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LCkRAd-6OeAFsvSEN1rxl0NjInTJivb1e32pQaUSbjM/edit?usp=sharing

Anthony Goh

no more death for sis. Having dad died was strong enough progression for him to change

Aezy Ken

I can't figure out how it adds up. Could you show your math please?

MR.K .

Not gonna lie, this is real important choice for the author. A choice thats going to set the tone (even more) for how the story and the MC progresses from here on out. 1. The MC comes in clutch, and somehow saves his little sis from whatever trouble shes got going on. No consequences, clean save. It means he is going in a good direction and the path he has been on and it’s pace/drive is good. (Imo a bit too cliche and plot armor heavy, but he did gain favor so its possible I guess) 2. He threads the needle. In the sense that he does save his sister, but with added consequences. Could be whatever, for example: she is crippled somehow which result in her losing her apprenticeship and being a burden to the family (damn). Or Kai is outed in someway which could be bad for him and the family. Or any such instances, creativity and originality of the consequence really lies with the author here. Basically, Kai saved the day but paid a price (I feel like this is the most likely course the author will take). 3. His little sister dies. Even with Kai trying his hardest to save her.(my favourite path) I know, harsh but hear me out. Kai has been doing well, in the sense that he’s been stacking a few wins. Yes my second path would be a technically be a loss. However a case can be made Kai did most right and ultimately the “fault” lies with the little sister. It would still push him to be better and guide her more, but not by a lot since she is her own person at the end of the day. Her death however, would literally push a mayor transformation regarding Kai in all possible angles of his life, training, goals, family etc. It is dark but thats why I said it would set the tone for the story even more and it will also let us know how far the author is willing to go in regards to pushing realism and darkness in his story.

Stephen Pearson

My mistake; I misremembered, thinking he was orange when he was accepted by the manor, but he only hit orange 1.5 months before his birthday (when he decided to rank up without painkiller... in the water:-p, chapter 20). Since then his skill gains add up to 26,100, and since it's only been ~3 months, that's probably ~220XP / week of life experience. I should have realized the math would check out:-) So that's great progress, after all!

Stephen Pearson

The 2 months of progress were mentioned - did Kai look at his race progress before the 2 months in town? If so, does anyone know which chapter that was (looks like it was before Patreon's start / chapter 31, at least)? Honestly I'm surprised it's only where it's at after a year with the extra 7 skills and the ridiculous growth in all of his skills, plus the life experience bonus on top of that. After all, 28,000 would be covered by 280 red-tier skill levels alone, or average of 20 red-tier levels per 14 skills... hasn't he covered about that or better just in skills (last listed in chapter 50)? Love your story, btw! :-)

Aezy Ken

He has 7 years to kill an orange rank

Anthony Goh

Would kai end up killing an orange rank creature to save kea and get more favor?

Eric M

I'll admit, I wouldn't mind seeing him delay a day or two to sort out Kea, and maybe even help Mel learn mana sense or something to give her a leg up after the elder was a massive d-bag

Eric M

I don't think Moui would tell her, the only reason it worked for Kai is he didn't know that there would be an achievement for doing so

Novel Cat

Thanks for the chap! ^~^ ^~^ ^~^ ^~^ ^~^ ^~^

Stephen Pearson

Thanks for the chapter! :-)

Doubledoor

Poor girls, both Kea and Mel got screwed over quite a bit, Kea with having a cheating reincarnator of a brother as her self-appointed rival and Mel with the BS of the elder. I hope Kea doesn't just accept she is not good enough, that seems to be an entirely plausible ending of this situation but it would suck mayor ass.

Vamsi Yerraguravagari

Hmmm.. I don't know but considering her personality I hope she does not get herself in trouble. Kai has only 1 day before going to estate and I would like to be as peaceful as possible for him and for myself as a reader.

Gio

oh snap! I guess Moui did tell Kea about Kai killing a beast xD edit: I think Kai will end up staying a bit longer to make sure Kea is in a good mental state or Kai will take Kea with him to apprentice with those guys.


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