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Caramel as an Emulsifier

🕑 Added 2025-06-05 18:02:17 +0000 UTC
Caramel as an Emulsifier

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Darcy S. O'Neil

The issue with the compound 4-MEI was a problem 20 years ago, and most caramel producers have modified their processes to reduce it to negligible levels. Coke has it down to the 10 μg/L (micrograms per litre) range. Dark roast coffee contains around 1450 μg per litre (150 times more than Coke), and dark beers can be even higher. This is because when you roast something (grain, coffee bean, etc.), the sugar and amino acids react to produce 4-MEI, and you can't modify the process; it is a natural occurrence. But caramel manufacturers can modify the process since they control the type of sugar and the nitrogen and sulphur source, as well as the pH and temperature which allows them to precisely control the process to produce close to no 4-MEi. When you toast bread or cook a chicken or caramelize anything, you get 4-MEI. If you want to skip the caramel, you will need another emulsifier. I'll be doing a Crystal Pepsi video in the near future. Modern caramel is not an issue.

Gossip Gist

What are your thoughts on the carcinogenic effects of type IV caramel? Is it really needed to get the Cola flavor, or can it be skipped completely?

Darcy S. O'Neil

It will only work with Type IV. Are you in the US? I believe Durkee makes a type iv. I will also be making a video on hos to make it at home, it is relatively easy I just need to do some tests.

Olivier Huens

Do you think this will work with type III caramel too? I can't find type IV around here...


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