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What's Nicky Learning? "A Very Tentative Theory of Being Human"

🕑 Added 2020-06-02 12:01:07 +0000 UTC

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Gal Green

Took me almost 4 months to bring myself to read this post (I suck at reading long texts), but I'm very glad I did, this was super interesting. Thanks Nicky :)

Thomas Hansen

This post has been helpful for me and I really appreciate your perspective and examples. Thanks!

Tim S (Banana Juice Tech)

According to Deci & Ryan's {{c4::Self-Determination Theory}}, our three main psychological needs are: {{c1::Autonomy (or Authenticity)}}: You {{c1::choose}} your life, according to {{c1::what you value}}, with fully informed {{c1::consent}}. {{c2::Relatedness}}: You {{c2::care}} about {{c2::others}}, {{c2::others care}} about {{c2::you}}. Your {{c2::social}} world is mostly {{c2::just and fair}}. You contribute to the {{c2::physical}} and {{c2::psychological needs}} of {{c2::people outside yourself}}. {{c3::Competence (or Challenge)}}: You {{c3::push}} your {{c3::capacities to the fullest}}, and {{c3::grow}} them even further. You do {{c3::good work, try new things, experience art, understand, learn, and play}}. Source: https://www.patreon.com/posts/whats-nicky-very-37796972

Tim S (Banana Juice Tech)

Thanks so much for this post. It's actually been helpful for me in understanding my needs better and how to process emotions. I've added snippetso from this to my self-improvement anki deck

Manuel Kueblboeck

Hi Nicky, I find the theory of being human very helpful and hope you will turn it into it's on thing. It relates closely to my own thinking and work on designing fulfilling work environments. I personally like to throw Ostrom's core design principles for governing Commons into the mix of base theories to make sense of it all. When you do turn the theory of being human into its own thing and want to chat about it, I would be totally up for that.

Nathan Borson

This theory of humanity rings true for me; upon (semi-)retirement, I found myself at a bit of a loss for what I should be doing. I eventually settled on a system of balancing my time/effort between Self (what I do that no one else cares about, similar to Autonomy), Beloved (things I do for others I care about -- family, friends, community, causes -- with no expectation of reward, similar to Relationships), and Work (what I do because I'm paid for it, and wouldn't do otherwise, similar to Competence). My Self-Beloved-Work doesn't correspond exactly with ARC, but it's similar. And I find your analysis of needs, feelings, and habits to be plausible and helpful in pursuing fulfillment. πŸ‘

Evan Rocha

If you end up making something with Spaced Repetition you should consider collaborating with Andy Matuschak of Quantum Country!!! He is currently building a holistic Spaced Repetition system where content creators can create flashcards which content consumers go through every once in a while to retain

Evan Rocha

I 've recently started thinking that doing things that I value which also happen to have a biproduct of being good for others is a more sustainable method of being useful for others vs. trying to be useful for others directly Ex. I really like learning, and I realized that if I have to teach others a topic it forces me to learn it really deeply. So I actually teach others as a selfish act to learn more effectively. Clearly though teaching others has a good biproduct of having others learn as well!

Evan Rocha

One issue with the "don't break the chain" method for forming habits is that you will inevitably break it at some point (ex. traveling messes up habits too easily) and if you are relying on a streak once the streak ends it could be demotivating to start again!

Evan Rocha

Positive Signals: Really liked the noise/signal analogy for emotions and that feels like a useful way to think about emotions. I similarly have organized my goals (slightly different from needs) into self goals (autonomy), relationships goals (relatedness), world goals (competence) Negative Signals: One thing I have been struggling with is building habit of doing productive work. Including things like coding side projects, drawing, really any creating of a thing. Doing this productive work is definitely needs satisfying to me. It fits into autonomy where I am spending time on something I value. Though that doesn't seem to be enough in this case to make it a consistent habit, as its always an ongoing struggle. So i feel like this framework is slightly incomplete...but unclear the fix

AP

Regarding: "Feelings are always valid..." I think people should follow up with "...but interpretation of them might not be". Depends how you define feelings of course but some ancient wisdom says feelings are sensations you have in your body (often incredibly subtle), like heat, pain, tingling, warm, cold, tension, vibration, etc. The emotions that come from them manifest in the mind (often as the noise), and calming the mind to correctly interpret them is how signal is found. It can be very hard though and fraught with danger. I suspect those of us who suffer from anxiety, anger, manic or depressive episodes might already be "too" well aware of their body sensations (feelings if you will), and need to train the calming / equanimous power of their mind to catch up to their awareness... or risk making the imbalance even worse. Meditation courses often being with increasing awareness as opposed to deciding if someone should actually increasing equanimity first. Very dangerous in my humble (perhaps ignorant) opinion. Regarding: "NEVER work or check email on Fridays / Saturdays, or on other days after 4:30pm" I've found the following helpful. I call it "Hours of Communication" and only check email / phone 1 hour first thing in morning. 1 hour before 12. 1 hour before 7 pm. And great post. Thank you.

AP

XD so true! You can edit your post though if you want though :)

AP

Great comment. Similar to "100% in the public domain" CC-BY is a good license as it requires attribution. This means someone can remix Nicky's work, then others will find enjoy the remix *and* Nicky's great piece of work it's based off of. With CC0 they might think it's just the remixer's work and never find Nicky's other work. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

GrΓ€vling

Around this house, the 'nerd immunity' cartoon had people laughing out loud. It's been a while since we did that. You are making the world a better place, but, aside from supporting your patreon I am not sure how we can remind you of this fact to the level that you need reminding. But this is a start, at any rate ...

GrΓ€vling

... patreon hates paragraphs, I keep forgetting ....

GrΓ€vling

Nicky having a rant sounds a lot like me when I need to go outdoors in nature ... which you probably cannot do due to covid-19. But, in better times, please put that on the list of things to try before you delete a months worth of work. Also, sometime when it is convenient, consider why deleting the stuff came across to you as 'noble' (which I will take as emotionally satisfying) in a way that just abandoning the project and walking away from it would not have been. I think there is something to learn there.

Aeryn Light

Also, your voice is an improvement over past attempts, but there are three things that stand out to me: 1. It feels like the fundamental frequency of your timbre is missing or not very dominant. The overtones are more prominent. 2. It sounds like a sped up recording of a normal voice. It could be useful to try drawing out your words more to better establish your timbre for each word. 3. At times, some words sound "off key", or not the musical note I would expect for some emphases. Like, "warm friendly people" seems like it ends a bit too high and could rest on a lower note for the last syllable. I realize talking is not the same as singing, but it does tend to have a melodic quality to it, and it helps establish consistency if all words in a sentence/paragraph are in the same key.

Aeryn Light

This is a very helpful article. I think it's good to have a few different mental models for breaking things down when analyzing one's self, and I agree with your conclusions. Please don't feel constrained by past expectations! Innovation comes in many forms.

Jesper Cockx

Thank you for writing this, it was very insightful and helpful to know some of the problems I struggle with are very similar to yours. I hope you continue to write posts like this, but really the other things on your list (comics, video games, short stories, etc.) all sound good as well.

Emelin Ringuette

I love this and I need to be able to share this with everyone this very moment xD

Eric Willisson

This is a totally separate note from my other comment. You may have thought about this and chosen your position with intent already, and if so feel free to disregard this. I was recently reading about Creative Commons, and they backed up something I heard from a lawyer once: that individuals can't actually put things in the public domain, only nations and similar entities can. This mostly doesn't matter since obviously you aren't going to sue anyone over using your work, but by saying they're "in the public domain", a few stodgy institutions (where lawyers have enough sway) might not let their members use your works. If you want to address this, Creative Commons Zero is supposedly an enforceable version of "I put this in the public domain" that more lawyers will trust (even weird cases like Germany, in which you apparently aren't allowed to say "I give away all my rights for this work," you're forced to enumerate them!). If this interests you, here's a starting point, with some explanation, an FAQ link at the bottom, and a link to guide you through applying it: https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/

Eric Willisson

Thank you for writing this, Nicky. There's a lot of stuff in it that rings true to me. I grew up being told I was very analytical, not emotional, and like a lot of masculine-presenting people internalized that as a good thing which I actively pursued. It's taken years in adulthood to discover the problems and try to unlearn that, but part of what I've been noticing is what you're saying about feelings being noisy signals. You put it much more clearly than I've been able to, though. Interestingly, I've heard the "I'm doing this out of habit, I'm being a robot" perspective before, from a friend who was always told, and similarly internalized, that they were an emotional person rather than a rational person, and who also suffered from depression and anxiety. They actively avoided forming habits to avoid becoming a robot, but in doing so exhausted all their energy on making basic decisions. The point that needs can actually be satisfied, as opposed desires for extrinsic rewards, is really interesting, and I'm going to need (heh) to think on that more. Does that imply Skinner boxes don't work if they give you something that actually satisfies a need? Let's make a button that fulfills a pigeon's need for Autonomy and find out. I'm glad to hear that you're charting a course that seems like it has a good chance to work for you. You make some really great stuff, and if I keep getting to be privileged to see it then that would make me happy, whatever it is. I expect your enthusiasm to come through, too, if you really are making it for you rather than something you think you "should" make. One negative signal: it would have been helpful to have a small example in the practice section. I found it hard to focus into something concrete, and then your own outcome wasn't exactly that. Your own exercise showed how important it could be, but is less applicable for a more specific part of a life. I have a vague thought about the connection between how it's a good idea for you to make stuff that's helpful for you, instead of an abstract goal of "helpfulness" to some generalized audience, and to the importance of caring about this petty, postmodern stuff even while there are people putting themselves in danger to keep us all safe. For now the thought is just that the connection is there, something about not being too self-sacrificial and remembering to take care of yourself (secure your own oxygen mask first?). Again, thank you for sharing this! P.S.x2: I'm a cis dude so take this with appropriate salt. I'd say about 80%? It sounds feminine, not masculine, but doesn't sound fully natural. I don't seem to have the language to describe what would make it sound more natural, though, I'm sorry.

Joyce

Thanks for taking the time to write and share this! Your post sounds like the mean part of my own brain, but in a good way, because it fulfills some of my (recently very low) Relatedness need. It makes me realize that even really cool people whose work and thoughts I respect have the same Mean Brain thoughts as me, and that my Mean Brain is actually just trying to point to unmet needs with its imperfect tools. I appreciate your work and look forward to your next post, "intentionally helpful" or not!


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