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Why the Pacers aren't getting off to a running start

🕑 Added 2024-11-14 23:53:11 +0000 UTC
Why the Pacers aren't getting off to a running start

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K.S

I feel that Halliburton's slump is bringing bad vibes to the team. This will continue until Halliburton recovers. Halliburton's chances of having the ball decrease and Turner has the ball and turner TOV

Rex Harris

I think mentally the starters are thinking they need to slow down and conserve energy since there are so many injuries to key players. I'm seeing too many slip screens used which can be a sign of fatigue. It's much easier to just slip by the screen instead of taking the time to set it then roll. I might add that these injuries of those playing can certainly affect that fatigue factor. Those of us that have had those bad ankle sprains can relate. I don't know how they can recover so quick.

Jay Loudermilk

Well the roster will remain woefully flawed and lack physicality as long as Turner remains. And I've always maintained this team won't be ready to peak/contend until 2025-26 at earliest or 2026-27 at most likely state. So I don't love giving a max contract to a guy that will be on the wrong side of 32/33 when that comes around. Then there's the problem that ORL and OKC in particular are younger, longer, more physical, have more top-five picks throughout their roster and are already better than us. So I really don't love giving up on the youth rebuild by pumping three #1's in to a 30 year old. That doesn't have anything to do with your comment, but it's for perspective that I've never once bought in to the hype around the 2023-25 era of the Pacers. They aren't ready for that next level yet. Unless of course we can guarantee more matchups where teams are missing their MVP candidate (Giannis) and other all-stars (Randal, OG, Porzingis, etc.) in the first three rounds of the playoffs. That's our recipe for success, not pace... not offense, and obviously on a team with Turner's eternal lack of interest in physicality and rebounding, and Tyrese and Mathurin have not yet shown they are interested in competing every posession like Aaron and Andrew do... You don't win in the modern NBA by pretending you have shooters as good as Golden State does/ did. You win by setting your own course. Defense and rebounding may not be sexy but it's you can control competing every night even when the shots aren't falling or you can't get out and run. I'm looking forward to seeing whatever success CLE and ORL can accomplish this season and hoping the Pacers figure out how to morph the weak parts of their roster (Center, perimeter defense other than Aaron and Andrew but it's way too early to lose hope that Benn and Tyrese figure it out) in to a team that competes on the boards and defensively every night and then when the shots are falling they can blow anybody out... vs the team now that relies on hot shooting to overcome a consistent lack of interest in defense and rebounding. But by all means, bring on the wounded opponents in the playoffs. That's more fun that getting bounced by teams that are at full strength. But that's not a good way to assess the team's prospects. I see 47 wins again, but a first round loss and that team will be better than the prior team and closer to making a sustainable series of deep playoff runs that aren't just relying on the mirage of success from playing shorthanded teams.

Norma

Caitlin what strategies do you suggest to counter the issues

Thomas

Really enjoyed (well was informed by it's rather frustrating as a fan) this piece. My texts and chats about the Pacers have been full of things like "the offense just doesn't have the urgency in that last year had" but haven't been able to point to specifics. Seeing the difference in transition structure really was an eye opener. Not just in the 1st two not running hard but the less disciplined last two guys back where it isn't all about pure effort/energy. I am trying to not chalk everything up to a nebulous back injury and find myself wondering if they're less focused on transition because Pascal and Mathurin have proven so efficient as half court options that they're tilting the load towards the half court on nights when Tyrese doesn't have it going. Of course that doesn't track with Pascal only getting one shot in the 4th last night and the clips of Tyrese struggling against the exaggerated coverage but the possibility is giving me hope.

Thomas

They were a poor rebounding and defensive team last year too and still ran hard. As for game plans to take it away I have faith that would have happened in the playoffs rather than now if it were that simple. The knicks and boston had plenty of film to work with and dedicated time to focus on it and the Pacers still ran on both.

Jay Loudermilk

I’m not saying you are wrong, but it’s pretty simple and doesn’t require all of the details to reach the same conclusion. Bad rebounding and not-great defensive teams have a hard time running, especially when the entire league took notice last season and had an offseason to gameplan to take away from us what we want to do.


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