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THE THINGS I GOT DONE - PLUS SWEARY BONUS RANT!

🕑 Added 2020-07-07 16:34:54 +0000 UTC

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Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Do I ever! Cheers, feller. I'm absolutely blessed by the support I've received from the likes of your good self over the years. Sanja also has said a lot of what you say above - the confusion about how anyone could draw these conclusions - but ultimately, the Digi audience as it is today is far smaller than the ones brought by people new to the Digitiser name. So maybe it was inevitable. It kind of didn't help in all this that it wasn't always just the fans who thought I was kind of a bit player in Digitiser the Show and the channel etc... But I'll let you draw your own conclusions about that. Ultimately - yes - it has been maddening in recent weeks, as it reached a kind of fever pitch and I felt more and more diminished by it, but getting this load off my chest has helped. I do feel very lucky. And very clear about moving forwards as planned.

Chris Bell

I can only imagine how frustrating and enraging all this stuff has been for you. For those of us that have followed your work for decades, it seems utterly incomprehensible that anyone would think you weren’t the main creative force behind the videos on your channel. The influx of CheapShow fans post-Digi The Show seems to have been a double-edged sword in that respect. But even then - you were the main host, the guy in the middle of the desk asking the questions. It’s really peculiar how this perception of you being a more peripheral figure and Gannon being the Svengali has come about in some minds. Since reactivating Super Page 58, I’ve made sure to credit Tim for his role in Digi, because his contribution was clearly fundamental in the early days - but I know, and Digi fans know, that you were the long-term creative driving force behind it. We’re under no illusions that without Mr Biffo there was no Digitiser. I can remember thinking that at the time - “If Biffo ever moves on, that’s the end”. You made such a singular contribution - literally and figuratively. That’s why when you did leave it was right that the name changed to GameCentral. Let’s face it - as you say, you’re responsible for what so much of us remember when we think of Digi. The golden years, 1998-2001, were entirely your creation. That’s why this whole thing is so incongruous and head-scratching for us long-term fans. And I don’t want to make this an old fans/new fans argument, because clearly it’s more nuanced than that and there are plenty of new fans that get it and who have delved into the history and your back catalogue. But it’s a really strange phenomenon, and - to be blunt - rude, the way you’ve been spoken to. You’ve obviously made the right call in rebranding - it was necessary, and good for you to reassert your position. I’m sure the current turbulence will pass, and you’ll hang onto most of the people who joined the party after The Show and the Minis. And if not - well, for someone who always prided himself in being able to evoke both love and hate in their work, well, you’ve still got it!

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Yeah, the rebrand has indeed freed me up to expunge a lot of pent-up frustration. Ironically, it has also caused a load! But yup. Focused - like a laser beam!

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Cheers, Simon. Yeah... the way the channel is at the minute has happened because of Lockdown - both because it was impossible to get together with others, and because the sort of knockabout nonsense we were doing before didn't seem like the sort of thing I wanted to do while there was a crisis on. I'm starting to feel like I want to get back to doing a bit more of it, though, but Lockdown has also been a blessing in that I've realised the value in doing stuff with Sanja too. Thanks for sticking with us.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Thanks, Treac. You've hit the nail on the head, I think. I continue wanting to do stuff with Gannon because he's a gracious and generous collaborator, and easy to work with. Plus, he's a laugh to hang out with. And even if it risks even more "More Gannon!" comments, that's a cross I'm happy to suffer.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Cheers, feller.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Thank you, Derek. That was a lovely comment. It was getting ridiculous, and I just needed to blow off steam. I feel all the better for it. As I said, I can take criticism... but it gets my back up when I have my own achievements diminished. Especially when others are given the kudos instead - in some instances, having done nothing other than allow themselves to be dragged in front of a camera! But anyway. Thank you for sticking with me. Means a lot.

Spiff

Sounds like the rebrand has focused your mind and enabled this type of "cleansing" - you feel free to rant away man. Scream into our willing ears. Digitally.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

It's scary isn't it? I honestly don't see how live entertainment can survive this in its current form.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Glad to know I've got a platform to vent in safety! I felt much better for having done so, Phil.

simon jacobs

I found you through Cheapshow and it's always been obvious to me that you and them are entirely separate entities. Sometimes things may bleed through but they're both a different feel. It really is a shame that some fans don't understand that at the end of the day, you are people with feelings. I enjoy the content you produce, be it a whole series like Found Footage or just you mucking about and having a laugh with your wife (it's not like there's a global pandemic which has put plans on hold or anything like that).

Treacle Truffle

Here comes my tuppence worth. I think you're a brilliant facilitator at creating a space for others to perform in who sometimes don't reciprocate (and can I explicitly exempt Gannon from this). As someone who as always thought Digitiser = Mr Biffo, I find the attitude of some people weird, a bit like thinking Last of the Summer Wine was just a vehicle for Burt Kwouk (allbeit that vehicle would be a bathtub with wheels careering down a hill, but I digress). Obviously some people came to the channel hoping for some sort of continuation of Barshens or an extension of Cheapshow and are disappointed. For me the purity of Found/Lost Footage is inspiring and has a clear lineage to Digitiser. Stand up and take the praise for the incredible works you've created and all the happiness they've brought to people.

Thomas Thacker

I may not be the most vocal person here, but that's in no small part due to the fact I'm perfectly happy with what you do. I'm not "mainstream" in any way and don't identify or fit into any group, so I tend to keep to myself and I get to some extent the difficulties in doing your own thing when it literally is just your own thing and nobody else's. I've been enjoying your content since the Teletext days - long before you teamed up with Gannon et al, so honestly, keep on doing your own unique thing and you'll be able to count on continued support from long time Digivites like me.

Derek Plante

Hello Paul/Biffo/Mr. Biffo (whichever is the best to refer to you), I hope it's not terribly inappropriate to post this here, but I'm one of the people who came to your work through the Barshens connections. To imagine that anything you've done on your own channel, in your own name, is merely a vessel for someone else's work seems... absurd, honestly. Disrespectful and dismissive to the extreme. It almost seems willfully ignorant, especially since you've brought this very topic up directly so. Many. Times. Not to mention you have your own channel, with its own name, and its own backlog, and its own identity, most of which has nothing to do with anyone else. What world are these people living in? How on earth can they be so confidently misinformed that they're telling you off on your own work? Unless it's some 4-D chess kind of joke to gaslight you, I can't even begin to fathom the disrespect in it all. Sure, I like the rapport you have with your guests, it's what caught my eye originally, but it'd be depressing as hell if it came at the cost of such toxicity/animosity. If any of the previous guests come back; great, super, superb. If it's not something you see yourself passionate about, however, sod it, I'm more than sold on what you've been putting out on your own (with all due credit and respect to Sanja and Jerden Cooke, of course). For however little it matters, I've honestly been incredibly impressed and fond of the work you've been putting out, especially since the lockdown, and am glad to help fund whatever it is you're planning, be it serious or whatever endearing madness the Lost/Found Footage series represents. There's been such honest passion and honesty in some of the videos and posts that they've made some of these dark days over the last few months *so much easier* to get through. Thanks for all the charm and madness, I'll be looking forward to the next thing *you* are working on.

Tyronne Mann

Blimey, if they are thinking along the lines of limiting numbers for that time next year - will there actually be ANY places still in business which can be used to put on any type of show let alone your own?

Phil Robinson

Oh boy, some of this is really close to home for me. Not in exactly the same way as your situation, but I totally empathise. I'm not the best at "blowing my own trumpet" as it were, and have with past creative endeavours had credit wholly assigned to my colleagues by others, simply because I was the "silent" one, and was often forgotten about. I eventually learned my lesson. It was embarrassing to my colleagues as well, as they knew damn fine well what my contribution was, and how proud of it I was. They did their best to get that across to people. It was just really awkward and frustrating for all of us, as we were and still are great friends . There weren't any "egos" among us, which in an odd way may not have helped matters in hindsight, I don't know. Anyway, I'm rambling, feel free to vent at us any time you like, and we'll listen! x

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Yep. All options on the table. But... two nights means we'd have to be able to afford two nights... and I don't know if we'd be able to, especially with reduced attendance. Costs a lot of hire and stage... and we'd also need to guarantee guests on both nights. But we'll liase with the Arts Centre to do something workable.

Paul Rose (Mr Biffo)

Oh quite possibly, feller. I know nothing negative was meant.

Chris JC

I’m more than happy with my level of credit in Sound Footage. If I’m going to muster up some fairness (I didn’t see the original comment), it's possible that at the moment some people don’t really know what kind of an album it’ll be and are imagining it to be something of a compilation of previously-heard music rather than your own brand of electro-prog aural excursions.

Paul

Therein lies the problem sometimes with self-deprecation; often people can’t see through it and presume that you couldn’t possibly be the mastermind behind something if you’re downplaying your role. I agree, you should embrace and celebrate your achievements to the wider public. You’ve earned that right. Re: the Live show, any use in having it spread across two or more nights if the capacity is reduced? Just an idea. So not necessarily two shows, just the one split up. Makes a weekend of it for people and perhaps gives the Arts Centre a boost in bar takings etc.

Hedders

We get it. And that's why we're here. I mean, don't get me wrong, I watch/listen to and greatly enjoy Cheapshow, Larry, Octav1us et al. They're great. But so are you.

That certainly was a sweary rant. Happy birthday to your children, by the way! I hope they are fine n' happy n' healthy. (I accidentally posted this before I meant to) I personally think you should let that false modesty slip more often. I know it's probably not that useful to say so, but we fans still love you and your work, so I hope there is some succour to take from that. (Album sounds great so far, by the way) much love.


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