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Our First Patreon Livestream #MakingHistory

🕑 Added 2024-04-14 00:46:49 +0000 UTC

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CG1

The fact that he has withdrawn from Lori and is even blaming her- shows that he doesn’t believe any of it. Or he would have stood by Lori and the whole story of zombies.

Cassandra Tee

Mary Salgado

Curious watching this very late, do you still have the same concerns about Rob Wood or the Prosecution as a whole? Follow up opinion would be great.

Mary Salgado

Catching up. Great to watch even late. Hope I can make next Live "live"! Do I need a different app aside from this to do a live question.

Charmaine Murray

Me to Samantha. Welsh girl x

Charmaine Murray

Excited to be part of patreon

Drkatiedds

LOVE the Bellagio pool party announcement 🎉 Idea for t shirts…. We might be dark but we avoided the STORM Thanks for all you do. Thanks for having the live chat. I have learned so much from you both, and as I told you, your content is both unique and extremely valuable.

Evelyn Yallen

I believe there is no spousal privilege if the case involves children. From the relevant Idaho law: Exceptions. There is no privilege under this rule: (1) Child related communications. In a criminal or civil action or proceeding as to a communication relevant to an issue concerning the physical, mental or emotional condition of or injury to a child, or concerning the welfare of a child including, but not limited to the abuse, abandonment or neglect of a child. (2) Criminal action. In a criminal action or proceeding in which one spouse is charged with a crime against the person or property of (A) the other spouse, (B) a person residing in the household of either spouse, or (C) a third person committed in the course of committing a crime against the other spouse or a person residing in the household of either spouse.

Apples

With Lori's clear pattern of vengeance on men in her life, I wonder whether Chad's decision to blame her may result in her testifying against him through sheer fury. The question is though... who would tell her?

Lauren and John Matthias

I’m sorry Ronald! I’ll work to be better

Tad Auty

I have always felt that Chad has a rich fantasy live but is a sluggish weasel. So he would dance around the edges of adultery or making a cult- and fantasise about world domination, priestly goddess multiple wives and killing off anyone who saw through his rubbish. I think what changed is that Lori came along and she’s all about action. She’s always on the move - getting things done with the help of anyone she could manipulate to assist her. So Chads all “Tammy is going to die in a car accident one day “ and “Charles is a demon “ And Lori is “right - let’s get this show on the road” I’m really not sure Chad would have ever murdered anyone without Lori and Alex being there. However I fully believe most of the ideas were his- he just didn’t know he had fallen for an highly motivated apocalyptic murder wedding planner.

Tad Auty

Hi from Australia ! Interesting idea if Nate gets an interview with Lori. He thought it was crazy speaking to Melanie Gibb . Lori would be a whole other level!

Tad Auty

Lauren explained the misunderstand today and her utmost respect for the court and judge. She had turned to put her phone down before standing (as they’ve been told to not stand with their phones ) but from the judges view it appeared that she actually turned her back to the court instead of standing - she clearly acknowledged how it would have appeared to the judge and she left when asked. But was also welcome to return and she’s using a different bag so she can put her phone down without that happening again. She’s very sorry.

Ronald Helm

Lauren was kicked out of the Courtroom of the Chad Daybell Trial for failing to rise for the jury. The bailiff told her she could return tomorrow. Lauren, you showed disrespect for the jury and Judge and you need to behave yourself.

Zefora

Spouses can't be forced to testify against each other

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Watching recording

Bonnie Schoeneman-Dilley

Hi Lauren and John!

Gordana Ivanisevic Nincevic

New patreon here. Lauren and dr. Johm you are absolutely the best. You cover all the aspects of this case, but also of other cases. I'm afraid I will never be able to join these lives as I am 8 hours ahead of Idaho at least, and I am an early bird. Hovewer, I am happy to support you here and on youtube. Back to the case. I was thinking of Lori. I believe that her speech was just an act. Being narcissistic, she couldn't stand people judging her and thinking she is a monster, so she rather put up the appearance of a devout mormon woman (keep sweet) with obvious mental health issues and perhaps delving into fringe beliefs. However, I believe it is possible that after Chad's trial she 'gets back to her senses' and pretends to be shocked and appalled at what happened. Nate made me reflect as he's already hinted twice at a possible interview with her. Btw are we ever going to see a panel with you and Nate? Much love from Croatia.

Jennine Jones

Watching this late cause I’m on vacation in France! So hooked on this case that I am spending my free time watching the trial and your videos. I think Chad is not exactly a con man. I think he built this fantasy world to be special, something he has always wanted to be. And it got out of control. At some point there was no going back. To keep being so damn special he had to keep taking it further and further. And I do think he thought that no one was going to question the deaths. No one in Rexburg knew the kids and he had laid the groundwork for Tammy’s death. He probably felt pretty invincible by the time he got this far and he might even have liked deciding who lives and dies. What I absolutely do not believe is that he believes the incredible bullshit about the light and dark scale and zombies. If he truly believed it, he would be defending it proudly. I mean, he’s right up there with the holy trinity.

Samantha Hughes

I'm so sorry I missed this first live here. It's usually to late here in Scotland when you go live. Hopefully I will catch one, one day soon. I loved seeing the more relaxed side of Lauren and Dr. John and not just the more professional side. I like getting to know you both as people and seeing more of your personalities. Your little boy is so cute and handsome. My question would be if Dr John could get to assess either Lori or Chad, which one would he pick and why? I'm sorry to here about your bother. My partner has a neurological condition called FND that I think Dr.John might know a bit about but it has changed their life alot to the point they are now in a wheelchair and unable to feel below their waist etc. so I can understand how life changing and altering TBI/ Neurological conditions can be. Send you both love 💕

Heidi

I doubt it. Suggestions of organized Satanism is more about (from what I understand) embracing a personal morality, annoying Christians, and keeping the separation of church and state.

Heidi

How was it?

Brandy Coullier

I kind of feel like, in the end, Chad had to “put his money where his mouth is.” I think he created this elaborate philosophy, that he sold to all these people, who ended up believing it. It’s one thing to talk about things and live in a land of fantasy, it’s another for someone to believe your bs and ACT on it. Where was he supposed to go after that? “Just kidding Lori, I know you killed your husband and your kids but I made all this crap up.” That doesn’t fly. I think in the end, he was backed into a corner - that he created himself - and felt like he had no other choice but to kill Tammy. I don’t think his ego (or pride) would allow him to fess up to all of his minions that he was a fraud and a charlatan.

Valorie Dodart

I agree. It sounded like he was reading it to me. But trying to give an accurate timeline, I could see where you would want to be careful of getting it right.

Heidi

Kindle?! Dr. John, I’m clutching my pearls.

Denise Walsh

Tylee's aunt, Joe Ryan's sister has been very loud and has attempted to be a voice for her - A Murderous Heart on YouTube - all about this case.

Brandy Coullier

Question…. If Lori is such a seductress and if she “framed” Chad, why is Chad still married to her? If this had happened to me, the FIRST thing I’d do is file for divorce. The fact that she’s still his wife speaks against the narrative Pryor is trying to sell.

Anne Rice

I'm watching this after it ended, but I just wanted to say that I agree with John. I felt that Rob did a decent job on his opening, but it definitely fell flat. I think this trial deserved a much more passionate and powerful opening. I also felt that so much was left out of Ray Hermosillo's testimony.

Cindy G yurts and things

Both links state the video is restricted so I haven't been able to watch either? What's up?

siouxie q

Would the whole group be sociopathic? What is the actual psychological hook? Your comment that Melanie Gibb said Tylee deserved it is shocking. I did't see her like that. Did they all know the kids were to be killed?

Lynette Butler

??? Jon and Lauren, I know this is already over, but on the issue of Chad’s children testifying, don’t you think it’s possible that Chad has convinced them that Tammy’s cause of death was simply “God” and not asphyxiation? Lori’s defense lawyers really worked to establish that asphyxiation is simply what coroners land on when they cannot find any other specific cause of death, but there is actually no real test to prove asphyxiation. So I think the children probably believe that their father couldn’t have smothered her, but rather that God just knew it was her time to go and took her. to me, this fits with their religious beliefs and saves them from facing that their father is a murderer and spares them from really perjuring themselves. They can testify (per Priors urging) that Tammy may have shown some signs of some illness, (don’t we all over the course of a month or two), believing That the the public and the jury don’t have the faith to understand that God can simply take people so that others can get on with their missions. I think that is what they think happened. Maybe this is something you could speak to in an upcoming podcast.

Lisa Spears

I think he was enjoying being idolized by a beautiful woman that was paying his expenses (out of Charles paycheck !) So much he just wouldn't let himself think this is real real children die he was on a high living in the moment .

Lisa Spears

They have to be perjuring themselves and it's disgusting using his kids like that, maybe ask them on the stand how they feel about his beliefs .

Annee

I really enjoy this format!

Gail

Such a sweet boy

Gail

Chad guilty

MissMaryMary, MD

@raelynn thank you for sharing.! I also had a brain injury 8 years ago and I am still recovering, thanks to the wonder of neuroplasticity. Never lose hope, Lauren❤️. The soul is still there! Praying for your brother 🙏

Data Lisa

So close to your 144K!!

Gail

I don't know

Maria David MAD

I'm so sorry! I didn't realize I was going to actually talk! Thank you for the off topic conversation. I appreciate your patience. And you are right the accidental cult leader. And this is why I love the both of your meaningful crafted telling. Not exactly the words I'm looking for.

NoniLady

Not sure how to ask a question. Do I put it here?

coffee and conversation

this will bring you into the live chat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05h0aWzrSEA on youtube.

ivonna.tinkle

good question...

Drkatiedds

I got knocked out somehow 🤷‍♀️

Deb

I've heard a suggestion on another utube channel that Satanism might be involved because the death dates and marriage date are on or very close to significant dates on the Satanic calendar. Thoughts?

coffee and conversation

yea it's live... took me a bit to figure out how to be in the chat. Click on the photo and then click share and copy and paste the link and you will be in the live.

Kimm Baker

Are we chatting in the right place?

ivonna.tinkle

This is pretty cool to see people in person.

MissMaryMary, MD

Me too. LMK if you figure it out please 🙃

Eileen

And I think that

NoniLady

Is this live. I’m confused

NoniLady

I think I made it

Yery

Yeah its fun meeting everyone, feels like we are having a little lunch or dinner date and talking!

ivonna.tinkle

I’m happy that you made it home for the weekend @lauren!

MissMaryMary, MD

That’s it Dr J! We know that rob W has much more passion about this case than he demonstrated in his opening!

Claudette

Not too hard. Like you said, the bar is high!

Yery

I am glad Robert did the powerpoint, helps people like me who might struggle with staying focus and are very visual but I also think Prior had a strong opening as well.

Eileen

Thank you Dr. John …I thought it lacked passion.

north wildlings

There is so much undeniable hard evidence coming for the jury soon.

Cathy Burns

I liked it - I thought he put everything in context.

ivonna.tinkle

Ahh kid B!

Yery

❓❓I find it interesting how polar opposite Lori and Tammy were from what we know. Did Chad really start killing when he met Lori? From what I recall Lori had her brother administering justice/acting as her protector prior to meeting Chad.❓❓

Colleen Canning

Hi everyone! ❤️

Gleanne Marie

I know we were joking about Julie Rowe being called as a witness, but man wouldn't that be great!? I would LAY DOWN on the floor! 🤣🤣🤣

Kimm Baker

Wouldn't he have to believe to allow people to die though???

Ruth Claessens

Am I in the right place or do I need Streamyard?

Ruth Claessens

Just joined.

Yery

Thank you so much for answering this! I appreciate it.

Tricia Griffith

??? How will the prosecution handle the kids? Will they get kind of harsh with them? Won't they have to come down hard on the kids????

soma azul

I'm not diagnosing but sociopathic narcissists think they can get away with anything.. smartest person in the room syndrome

Terrie

Not yet. They are coming.

Gail

No idea how to leave comments

north wildlings

Hello delusional

NoniLady

Has this started?

north wildlings

So they all have delusional disorder or just Lori?

Wendy Sanders

Loving all the content you guys create. Thanks for all you do!!

Becky (Rebecca Randall)

How do we come on live!?

north wildlings

Yes. The poor kids have been groomed to believe untrue things since birth

Cask

Did the medical examiner have anything to say about Tammy's health?

Gleanne Marie

Is it just me or do the Daybell kids seem very sheltered, almost immature?

Lauren and John Matthias

https://streamyard.com/ydh7kdwjqj

Linda Kellams

Emma has the same flat affect and monotone as Chad.....I'm betting that she would say anything.....but I so hope all of them don't believe him.

Kimm Baker

*shows

elizabeth earnshaw

Yes John, I am having a hard time too thinking of the kids failing to protect their mother and not demand justice for her.

Denise Fitzgerald

I hope none of his kids become "dark"

Kimm Baker

Shoes his influence for sure!😠

Sherry Agee

Don't forget the cult dimension. Chad's kids are probably the top cult members.

Terrie

I just went back and they are trying to link with in few minutes.

Denise Fitzgerald

I'm guessing his kids are part of the 144k?

Yery

❓❓I've wondered just how interested the jurors have appeared when each side speaks.❓❓ Also curious to see who else Chad has for his defense.

north wildlings

So sad.

Terrie

Lauren had said they are very attentive to both sides. Really watching lawyers for questions and then watching witness for answers.

Elizabeth Nesbitt

I teach online, so I will forever be patient with someone who struggle with tech. lol

Yayyy!

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