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Diving into the Wreckage: Decay and Renewal 2

🕑 Added 2024-09-18 10:00:15 +0000 UTC

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Derick Varn

correct

daytorn

Can you link me? I could only find the interview from 4/5/24

Stephen CM

It's on YouTube

daytorn

Is the platypus panel Sean was on available?

Ross Wolfe

It's a great space. They do tons of cool events.

daytorn

https://endnotes.org.uk/articles/the-defeat-of-the-workers-movement

Samwise

I read the Bernes piece on 'If We Burn' that they mentioned and got to this bit: "There is a kernel of truth to this account, inasmuch as social movements today do live in the shadow of a long 1968 whose logic and repertoire have not been overcome, but this is, in my view and in the view of many others, less the result of ideology than of long-term structural changes in capitalism which are now global. In any case..." Basically just curious if anyone has works/people to read that would expand on this, since Bernes moves on with his argument after the aside.

synthmage

I'll be real with you, I have avoided most journals and essays and books about the Floyd uprising because I assume by default that they're going to be overly optimistic or just plain wish-casting. It felt like a lot of the leftist writing that came out in the aftermath of that moment was made by people projecting some kind of secret revolutionary communist undercurrent that drove the Average Everyday American to the streets that summer, and I just...don't buy it. Maybe I'll have to pick up the book and give it a chance.

boogaboogabooga

Thank you.

Tulley

Phil Neel and Aaron Benanav I think

M.R. Alchemist

woodbine sounds based

boogaboogabooga

Who is Varn citing at approximately 1:35:30? It's 2 people.

Gray

Until now, I hadn't heard anyone talk about how embarrassed people are about 2020 and how quickly that flopped. Weirdly refreshing to hear it. It seems repressed.

Cole

‘These people are easily manipulable because they’re highly online’ put that on a giant banner. If you’re a younger person who grew up with social media and related platforms disentangling yourself from it isn’t just a healthy choice, it’s also clarifying on what it is you actually care about and believe and don’t just respond to on an emotive or aesthetic level. Side note but on the train of thought that being critical means you don’t have a Whiggish view of history and purely positive development, I fully believe in the future (or a potential positive vision of it) 85% of what the internet is, if it exists at all as we understand it now, will be totally done away with and viewed as a major social misstep.

Trey

Absolutely love the end, it should be that way, lets be of use to our fellow workers and live the actual sacrifices necessary to start a project thats based on solidarity.