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SHHG! Episode 11: Island Builder City Simulator Game

🕑 Added 2023-07-28 14:00:10 +0000 UTC

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mouse girl extraordinaire

this ep is an all timer for sure.

Seanald McDoodle

When I heard Xeecee say "iblis trigger" I knew what was up.

Lambda

The most interesting thing for me, as someone who has NO idea what the fandom consensus on anything in this series is, is hearing Liz and Xeecee converge on Peeta being an asshole. Maybe it was a mix of me being gullible as a teen and Josh Hutcherson smoothing over the character's edges (and Woody Harrelson probably played a part too) but I was surprised that that was the podcast's take. Another weird thing: I haaaaaaated the romance when I was a teen, but was weirdly more receptive to it reading it as an adult? I might've overcorrected and graded it on a curve.

Zachary Coleman

I’m smiling ear to ear waiting for the next episode. You’re not out of the woods on insane stuff yet…

Faith Meyers

"Iblis Trigger" fully shut down my computer. just absolutely crashed it .

Spaghetto!!!

The combo of Werewolves, Crank Palace and the Iblis Trigger really gave this one a powerful kick

superboo

i was a little distracted at that point of the episode and just sort of figured that’s what happened honestly, as i tried to fill in the gaps (instead of simply, say, rewinding a little to re-listen or pausing or things of this nature,) and now i’m like, damn it. it’s weird that’s not it.

Mona

smdh the book's been hinting at the werewolves since the start! Katniss is the Girl On Fire! and what color fire is represented as? RED! That's Right! This has been a Red Riding Hood Modern Retelling this entire goddamn time—

J G

'CRANK PALACE is REAL' -The Shriekcast, 2023

Ryan

I don’t think it does, just because I don’t think the wolves actually matter beyond their one scene. Another reason I don’t think of it as “the big twist”.

Joshua Smith

The werewolves bit, I always assumed was that they had these animals (made up animals? like how they started raining fire down upon her earlier), which had been changed so that they looked like dead tributes. Just as a way of really fucking with the people left. And the book makes a lot more sense when you think that at every turn, the Capital wants Katniss to turn blood hungry and kill Peeta and she hasn't.

Femmoo

ohhhh okay i understand now. it was all a big misunderstanding, the bonus interview was MEANT to be titled "Writing about Warwolves" shame the editor didn't catch that mistake

A sudden absence of bees

Crank Palace is the new common room

A sudden absence of bees

It's a very different type of podcast

The Shrieking Shack

The difficult thing here--sort of a running question we've had about the book--is what is really meant, in Katniss's narration, to truly be an open question and what is exposition framed as a question, kinda like all the Peeta motivation speculation stuff. We'll see! Still got some chapters left though so there's still a chance this could get clarified

GloomLoom

I've read this whole series twice and while I did remember there being some sort of canines in this part I didn't remember them being Annihilation monsters at all. wtf. I thought they were just strong dogs.

Ryan

I never thought of the wolves as “the big twist” or even really a twist at all. It was just one more gonzo thing that happened, which is probably it never got spoiled. It doesn’t really elucidate anything about earlier events that would make them read differently, which I think a twist needs. This might be because my read (I don’t know if this is stated in the books or just how I read them at the time) was that the tributes were not literally resurrected, just that wolves were spliced with their DNA to give them certain physical features. Edit: found a totally legal copy of the book, and it looks like when Peeta and Katniss are looking at them they speculate them might Frankenstein type creatures using parts of the dead tributes, the line about them having memories is Katniss speculating that they might have used parts of their brains. But this is phrased as a question, so I don’t know if that’s meant to be taken as true.

The Shrieking Shack

Oh, I really like that. They black out at the end of the chapter and wake up victors

Genesis

I think what might have made the final take back from the Capital work better is if they let Katniss and Peeta eat the berries because they didn't think they'd both do it, and then were forced to use some advanced capital healing stuff to hastily salvage any winners at all

BuoyantTrain37

I think this is a Shriekcast first for me, but I had to stop the podcast and take some time to recover upon hearing "it's all the dead tributes brought back as werewolves"

Mikkorama ASMR

I did a double take and immediately paused and looked it up cuz I was like I’m 99% sure that’s a fucking Sonic thing. Incredible

Kzinssie

Actually god Sonic 06 with Elise as the protagonist is peak YA trash. You could probably throw in like ship wars with which hedgehog she ends up with too

Lambda

WARNING: There are spoilers for later in the series that absolutely won't be nonsense, but idk if they're the type of thing people talk about the way they talk about eg Snape killing Dumbledore

cem

The thing about the first hunger games novel is that it's like 80% set up. In the second book Suzanne Colins goes 'well we all know why we're here' and dials things up to 100. It means the movie has an advantage because it can pull from other books and smooth out the 'showing but not telling' bits that the author stumbled over in the book. With that being said, you'll have a different viewing experience reading all the books first then watching the movies.

Kzinssie

Hearing you namedrop the Iblis Trigger like it's nothing made me fucking cough up my dinner as the #1 Sonic the Hedgehog garbage eater Honestly should have just filed the serial numbers off Sonic 06's plot it would have fit right in

Kzinssie

The better way to introduce the take backsies would be for the rule change to get dropped while Cato has Peeta dangling above the werewolves, right? Like have it be a split second thing where she has this golden opportunity but can't take it

Shift

i know that mf tribute ate a cheese

The Shrieking Shack

foxface was standing there going Oogh. Ugh. Agh. Ugh. Oogh. Agh. until her HP ran out

The Shrieking Shack

Yeah, the Underland Chronicles has def been on my radar ever since I read about it--would love to know what the lesser-known Collins book is and how different/similar it is!

Kzinssie

this dog is fucked up bruh

The Shrieking Shack

hee hee hee that's right

kyssimmee

I also thought you were describing This dog https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/430/494/e05

Shift

i also have been shielded from this plot twist so when i wrote up that whole thing last week about this book's problem with its conception of violence and how that relates to tone i could not have imagined that the followup to that would be foxface dying a tom and jerry death and then the plot immediately transitioning to being Dog Soldiers

kyssimmee

I mouthed "What?" "What?" "What?" when Liz read the summary, I promise it's not just you guys I think all of society has conspired to hide this plot point from the world

Archie

I only guessed right in the final segment cause I vaguely remembered "Iblis Trigger" being a villain from Sonic '06

Marisa

Commenting from my crank palace

Archie

I'm wondering what you guys would think about the Underland Chronicles, the series that Suzanne Collins wrote before the Hunger Games. It's been a while since I read them but I remember it being really fucking nasty and like, Actually About War. People burst open when they fall to their deaths, giant talking rats get decapited, a squadron of soldiers mounted on giant bats are allowed to be ambushed because the "good guys" don't want to reveal that they cracked the enemies encoded messages, and iirc theres a scene where a bunch of talking mice get forced up an active volcano and burned alive in some possible Holocaust imagery? I can't help but wonder if Hunger Games was written The Way It Was because Collins got feedback on the Underland Chronicles to the effect of: "Jeezus fucking Christ this is a YA series Suzannne, can you maybe tone it down next time?"

sam

this graphic design. immaculate also. thank you for articulating how lazy the "banality of death" defense of some of the deaths in these books is because rewatching the last movie and reading reddit posts in that vein was driving me to madness edit: was about to make a "not enough people talking about how alex garland stole annihilation bear (2018) from the hunger games" joke only to discover with some googling that the muttations are more likely inspired by hound of the baskervilles OR by gene wolfe's urth of the new sun. fake genre fan moments

sam

tbh my hottest take is perhaps that these books were always meant to be consumed in the medium of film LOL, Collins' barebones prose just screams screenplay to me. only book 3 was beyond salvaging imo

Marisa

It’s been so long since I read the books but I think at least for this first book the movie is actually a much better version of this story

spectre-ship

Maze Runner was big when I was in high school and I remember even then, as someone who at the time fairly regularly grabbed YA books off the library shelves and read them, I thought it just sounded completely incomprehensible, and every back-of-the-book summary and description by an acquaintance made me even more confused as to what it's actually about

Dawnbreak

"X is like the Hunger Games" has big "X is like 1984" energy

ZiggyWSB .

You should edit the whole Mutant Werewolves Section into a "Fake YA Description"

Cutey! Candy!! Cataclysm!!!

Okay so first we're gonna invest our 4 million in a John Legend endorsement and bowling alley animations where 10 Chias are crushed by a bowling ball and then there's gonna be so much hype that people will invest 4 million more dollars--