Random AOT S2 E12 Question
🕑 Added 2022-08-18 16:24:16 +0000 UTCEren can't use the coordinate to control titans without making contact with someone of royal blood, right? So why was he able to do it when he threatened Reiner & Bertolt while carrying Mikasa in S2 E12? Just curious...maybe there's a time limit on how long he can use it after making contact with royal blood? Idk, I'm editing the S2 E12 episode right now and it's my favorite episode in the series so I wanted to know why this was!!!
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Ashley Twigg
dina was within wall maria but not rose which is where eren was
Agent X
How do we know he isn't able to use it for a short time once his powers are activated. We only saw it happen twice
Rick Turpentine
Something fun I like to think about is that grisha stole the founding power then had to make it to trost where the shinganshina refugees were. We later see Dina still Wandering inside the walls outside trost. Technically there was a small chance of grisha seeing Dina as he made his way to eren to deliver the founding and attack. He could very well have used the founding that day the walls fell.
TheXtreme15
This is exactly the case, to use the power of the founder without being royal you need to touch a Titan or Titan shifter with royal blood
Gu
It's a technical extension not big enough to be a plot hole
Agent X
I'm not 100% sure, but my best guess is that he was able to use the power for a short time after coming into contact with a Titan of royal blood. We only see it happen 2 times so its not entirely a plot hole
Joey Nato
nah, erwin had some straight up selfish motives..armin was the right choice!
&y
Question: since you’re caught up, and seen armins actions throught the show, do you think Erwin would have done a better job fighting for humanity if he was alive instead of armin? Or would you still choose armin over Erwin. Erwin with the colossal titan, or armin with the colossal? It’s almost poetic how the show wrote it to be where, the most pacifist, peaceful character (armin), got the power of destruction.
Raider Muego
The reason why eren was able to use the coordinate in season 2 because the titan that he punched is Dina fritz which is have a royal blood. You can only use the the coordinate if youre a descendant of a royal blood.
Brandon Guzman
Because it looks coolrr
Jouvanne Thomas
Definitely a time limit. I don't think there would be a plot hole that big. After getting in contact with someone with royal blood Eren gains the power to control the Coordinate for a time...
Krystal
Most likely a time limited thing. Or for dramatic effect. Either way, the last part of AoT (only manga rn) explains more of this, so guess you'll have to wait to find out
aadimy
guessing theres a time limit bc mikasa being true royal blood would be a major majorr plot hole
Brandon Stillings
His Titan marks were still on his face 🤷♂️probably a time limit
KatyRose
Btw i can assure you it’s never mentioned, I’ve read the manga. 😆
Izy G
Yeah my bad I jusr re-read it
KatyRose
Yall he knows dina is royal blood, that’s not what he was asking 🤦♀️
KatyRose
It’s never mentioned, so i think it’s probably just a plot hole, a lot of aot’s story is intricate and well thought out, but there are a few small plot holes from earlier in the story that are unexplained
Yessi
Well.. Not really. U can actually see a small scene where the weird worm thing captures zeke within Eren's transformation. Which makes his titan constantly in contact with zeke, hence why he can keep using the rumbling.
Joey Nato
hopefully tomorrow at some point!
Lijnaito2021 !
Unrelated but Joey, when is the next spy x family episode?
AsterJ
Yea will do but that would create some major plot holes cause I feel like he would've definitely had contact with her in other instances where he would've tried to use the power. I'm sure they would've tested something like that at least. And at this point, does it really matter? He got Zeke anyway lol
Joey Nato
Just also want to say, if my theory about Mikasa of being royal blood ends up being correct (since he's holding mikasa while using the coordinate the 2nd time)..remember where you heard it first lol
makotheQ60
Wait he kept Zeke. I didn't see that in the anime
AsterJ
The most logical explanation is that Isayama probably made it that there's a lingering connection to The Paths/Ymir after making contact, merged DNA through skin cells or something of the sort. Eren definitely knows that just making contact for a short period of time isn't enough to keep the connection with the Founder for a very long time and that's likely why he kept Zeke with him when he turned into the Hallucegenia/Centipede Titan lol
Roberto Duran
he touched the smiling titan "Diana", who has royal blood, that's why he could use the coordinate only at that moment, random fact Diana said 'it doesn't matter if I'm a titan I'll find you anywhere' maybe she followed the essence of Grisha
Joey Nato
it's reallly close between those 2, it depends on the day lol since i'm editing this episode rn it's this 1 lol but i've watched the Scream scene many many times
Kristi Maxhari
Wasn’t ur favourite Midnight Sun?
Asha Draws
My assumption is that there is a time limit, or he was able to use it until the titan (Dina) eroded/ died completely.
ORORA06
Dina(smiley titan) is royal blood and he punched her hand so that contact allowed him to use the power of the founding titan.
Drai
Since you’re already caught up, he also does it after making contact with Zeke then does his scream to control the Wall Titans
Cl0s3tW33b
SPOILERS for S2 and S3. Eren doesn't have royal blood which is needed to use the power of the coordinate. Grisha's first wife/ mother to Zeke/ killer of Eren's mom who he punched in that scene where he used the coordinate had royal blood.
Joey Nato
the time limit is the only thing i can think of. or mikasa is of royal blood & we dont know it lol DOUBT IT though
Joey Nato
it makes me start to wonder if mikasa is of royal blood too or something tbh lol i know dina is what caused it, but this was like minutes after so..idk
Ashley Martin
Cuz he touched Dina after punching her hand, he ordered the other titans in the area to eat her. Then when carrying Mikasa he ordered them to stay away. There must’ve been a time limit between touching Dina and ordering Reiner to get away. Makes the most sense to me.
Matthew Diehl
Well theres like a buffer when he can still use it after he punches dina fritz's titan (who's got royal blood)
Alex Wu
Dina, Grisha's ex wife was a descendent of the royal blood. So when Eren punched back Dina's hand, they touched and triggered the power
Jonathan Speziale
Remember when he punched the hand of the smiley titan? The smiley titan is of Royal Blood, so when he punched her hand, he was able to use the coordinate. Not sure on the time limit of its effectiveness, but that is what triggered it.
Jeremy Scholz
That’s the assumption the show makes u think. You got it right, really enjoy the uncut series so far!!