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DITW 15-19: Orbital Mechanics and Entry Windows

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Bill F Protagoras

"I've never been to heaven, but at least I've read about love!" Richard Thompson. Read About Love. Asked my daddy when I was thirteen "Oh Daddy, can you tell me what a lover really means?" His eyes went glassy, not a word was said He poured another beer and his face turned red Asked my mother, she acted the same She never looked up, she seemed so ashamed Asked my teacher, he reached for the cane He said, "Don't mention that subject again" [Pre-Chorus] (Read about love) I read it in a magazine (Read about love) Cosmo and Seventeen (Read about love) In the back of a Hustler, Hustler, Hustler [Chorus] So I know what makes girls sigh And I know why girls cry So don't tell me I don't understand What makes a woman and what makes a man I've never been to heaven But at least I've read about love [Verse 2] My big brother told me when I was fourteen "It's time I showed you what a lover really means Girls like kissing and romance too But a boy's got to know what a man's got to do" He gave me a book, the cover was plain Written by a doctor with a German name It had glossy pictures, serious stuff I read it seven times then I knew it well enough [Pre-Chorus] (Read about love) And now I've got you (Read about love) Where I want you (Read about love) I got you on the test bed, test bed, test bed [Chorus] So why don't you moan and sigh? And why do you sit there and cry? I do everything I'm supposed to do If something's wrong, then it must be you I know the ways of a woman I've read about love Well, well, well When I touch you there it's supposed to feel nice That's what it said in Reader's Advice I've never been to heaven But at least I've read about love Eat your heart out John Milton...

KT Morrison

I do read a lot of the great Irish poets, and did so from a very young age.

KT Morrison

Wonderful. I'm also unsure if any finale I contrive is a true finale and not just the closing of a chapter.

Bill F Protagoras

"Let me not be mad!" Excuse my Learing!

Bill F Protagoras

These red hearts!

Bill F Protagoras

How Kimmy's unreasoning cunny must have rejoiced to hear Josh asking after the video... Was something turning out as her capricious consciousness had rashly foreseen that long long life sundering year ago? When she let go of Josh on an impulse difficult, if not impossible to recall...

Bill F Protagoras

On closer examination of this chapter's title there is a good (or bad) deal of ambiguity on hand... Also as my ole mucker the Joker wryly mentioned... The hour is getting late!

JL23

Resolution is "a" goal of a story. You need some kind of resolution, but it doesn't necessarily have to tie all the knots together. And it doesn't necessarily have to be "the" goal of a story. The journey along the way is important too. Guess I used quotations there more for the idea that a lot of us seem to be thinking, that this isn't necessarily going to be one of those tie all the knots, no doubt they live happily ever after endings. Feels more ambiguous, and maybe even a bit ominous, long term. Interesting thoughts above about how both Josh and Kimmy may be using their kinks as the string that keeps them together. I kind of agree with some of that. Definitely from Josh's POV.

Bill F Protagoras

Very interesting and perspicacious take, Randy, and run with it. My only discrepancy is the centrality you give the erotic game. What seems more important to me is that the love that they took for granted pre-trauma and pre-Devlin is now so problematic that they have started to try to recover a relationship out of nostalgia and a nuclear family alone. The rigorous stomping Kimmy inadvertently gave Josh (traumatized in his own fashion) through her big magic wang coping strategy was not only nearly totally destructive, but transformative. Now the eroticism of the deviant game they used as a temporary patch is being used by each of the insecure Waters as a bargaining chip. The ephemeral nature of their kinks and it's innate conflictive nature doesn't make it seem a reliable fix. Despite my passion for irony, and my confidence in KT's artistic prowess, it may be darkest before the dawn in psychosomatic land... but in my experience it's darkest in the middle passage of a moonless, starless night miles away from anywhere (or as they put it round here) en el quinto coño!

Randy

A thought just occurred to me. First, KT seems to have gone deep into the characters of Kimmy and Josh. And, bringing the angst to a sufficient level to end the story is not easy as a result. Both Josh and Kimmy have to come to a place of self and mutual understanding to both see the game for what it is…a mutual turn on…and how each mutually benefits without the game tearing them apart individually and as a couple. Second, ending the conflict will not be the end of the story. It’s not like they can put this Genie back in a bottle and set it on the shelf. The game will need to continue except around another person. Third, I wonder how KT will reveal the affair between Hyun and Kimmy? What a perfect ending, Josh discovering his next point of torment, arousal will be his best friend’s ex-wife, now in lover for Kimmy, and care taker of their daughter and home.

Bill F Protagoras

Sorry, Pete, but after the work we've read, and especially after the most recent instalments... nothing and no one could convince me of an HEA. These babes are not out of the woods for a good while yet. And now I see another reason why 'the ending' of Cherry Blossoms was located where it was! Also, is there anything that KT has written that you've read that would lead us to expect a fairy tale adjacent ending... ?

Bill F Protagoras

*"Prosody refers to the melodic aspects of speech, including variations in pitch, intensity, and duration, which convey meaning through paralinguistic cues and help organize language. AI generated definition based on: Encyclopedia of Language & Linguistics (Second Edition), 2006." Maybe AI isn't just a load of bollox... Sorry, David Hume just nudged me and hissed... Or somebody is lying.

Bill F Protagoras

"This mild woman he’d married, this woman of once plain sex, and a kind, clean home, was wicked." What a great sentence! The more lurid Pre-Raphaelite image in continuation climactically leaving it in the shade... but how impressive is the sneaky semantic elision of "and a kind, clean home"? This is prosody.* How many people write as well as this nowadays?

Bill F Protagoras

The final line of one of my favourite novels is "It was the devious-cruising Rachel, that in her retracing search after her missing children, only found another orphan ..." I'll give you a clue, Rachel was not a weary lady of easy virtue and feckless maternal instincts plying her trade at the docks. This American novel was examined in one of the few critical essays I truly admire... written by Charles Olson. Claiming that this novel was not the kind of epic it appeared to be, but rather the epic of the birth of industry in America. Not in the lands it was in the process of underhandedly and hypocritically appropriating from the skraelings, but by ships' companies in the Pacific Ocean hunting down and efficiently butchering, processing and capitalizing huge powerful sea mammals. Foreshadowing future exploitations through the labour of outcasts and the unpropertied seeking a minor share of the wealth they harvested for the profiteers who equipped the whalers. Doing the dirty dangerous work to line the pockets of the privileged. Pursuit of the whale for others' happiness. Here I go again, riding a hobby horse of mine while others get to make a hobby of enjoying the riding of all kinds of whores... PS- 'The Dick' not only showcasing explicit descriptions of sailors rubbing their hands together ecstatically in maritime companionship in copious buckets of richly textured precious sperm, but also plunging into the whiteness of not only Moby, makes it a uniquely placed, and timed, anachronistic candidate for queer great American Novel... without even a cursory examination of the nature of Ahab's prosthetic! Even Devlin would blanch with humble Josh-like timidity at the proportions of the true eponymous hero of this particular offering of Melville's multifaceted literary imagination... and tiny Kimmy might quiver with renewed excitement in the burley arms of some daring heroic First Mate upon sighting IT. Or should IT be HIM? Bearing in mind it is 'based on a true story'!

Bill F Protagoras

You are, as you can see, Pete, not alone... maybe not a twist, but something that begs the question about our presumptions, perceptions, and simplistic hopes of satisfaction or resolution. After all, the linear progression of a novel when reading is as deceptive as the concept of self. It might require much more blind optimism than the bones of the story can bear. I might bring up the concept of prescribing a grain of salt, but this work may already have tampered with the blood pressure of its 'dear' readers enough. When in unchartered waters we will all profit by there being a firm alert hand bending the rudder... even if it's to run the vessel aground in a pinch. PS- '11th' hour has a bit of a rosy glow, or a feeling of reprieve about it.

Bill H.

Would love to see a big twist too, Pete!

Pete

I'm not sure. Maybe a return of Devlin? Maybe a twist with Hyun? Or with what Kimmy wants? The story, over the last several chapters has seemed to be moving inexorably toward a Happily Ever After (HEA). It just feels like it could be the calm before the storm (or before the twist).

Zach

What did you have in mind?

Pete

Perhaps I'm the only one, but I can't help but wonder if we might see an 11th-hour twist. KT has done so before (e.g. Learning Lessons).

Randy

First, I think Hyun could be a separate story line of it’s own. It would work out that KT simply lets is dangle. It would also work out that it neatly fits into my Second comment. That is that relationships don’t always move in a simple, straight line. Marriage is about accepting both the good and the not so good in a partner and mutually helping one another grow up. In the case of Josh and Kimmy, the whole story has been about the how sordidness around Devlin both exposes the immaturity in both Josh and Kimmy and forces them to count on their love, their deeper inner connection to one another, to help them achieve some of the intra and interpersonal insight to grow up individually and as a couple. Hyun is merely one additional character in the process. How will KT weave that in? That’s what keeps me reading!

Bill F Protagoras

KT regales us with further masterful demonstration of ad hoc realism and the mental acrobatics it sometimes entails, and the unintentional and irresponsible distress it leaves in its wake. I'm still hanging on by the skin of my teeth... see Job 19:20 "My bone cleaveth to my skin and to my flesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth."

Chris K

Someone has homework to do!

Zach

What was on that video?

Bill F Protagoras

Maybe calculation, or might it be the sharpened perception of miscalculation fuelled by trepidation.

Bill F Protagoras

"She wore a black crown of poisonous thorn," with the addendum "and wore it with grace." Together extremely allusive. Including far from consoling intimations of mortality, or dodgy second comings...

Bill F Protagoras

Healthy, JL? Psychology, like Judeo Christianity and most other religions, focuses on the innate wrongness of human beings and their perfectibility... a moot point if ever there was one.

Bill F Protagoras

As you put resolution in quotation marks, JL, I suspect that you don't see resolution as the end (goal) of a novel, or as a prerequisite. I tend towards Collingwood's view that what gives art its sense of completion is the artist's, in this case the author's ability to stop revising it, to cease revelation. If I remember rightly Collingwood began with the idea of a sculptor chipping a statue out of a block of stone... we can see from the Venus de Milo how disastrous an artist's lack of restraint can be. The novel still remains just that... still novel... a mirror or puddle in the mud reflecting the world with its sine qua non life... as Flaubert, or was it Stendhal suggested. As always your observations are interesting and pertinent.

Glaucon

Hey, KT! Hope all's well.

Bill F Protagoras

"Josh looked down and then back up again. "Do you have the video?" What I call switchback bathos, it being a smidgeon less dangerous than my old friend 'whiplash'.

Bill F Protagoras

"To break him, Josh. He thought it was so funny to do it to you. So I did it to him." Kimmy's law... reducing Devlin's pretentions of kudos to their innate absurdity... and incidentally exposing her own shamelessness.

Bill F Protagoras

"She'd given it all up for this? Given it all up for her okay husband with a mediocre job and soft body and average dick?" I wonder where Kimmy got her taste for teasing and tantalizing?

Bill F Protagoras

"He smiled, knowing her spots. —And it made her think of how she'd shared that with Devlin. Intimacy. Not always raw sex, but sometimes a dark closeness she regretted." Given the intrusive dimensions of his erotic 'attentions' how much of his doings were intimacy and how much happily fleshed coincidence... bumping and grinding in snug confines passing itself off as skill or serendipity. Or just rough approximation. Then again... guilt has its own particular squirming thrills and embarrassing stifled whimpers.

Bill F Protagoras

"He was handsome and boyish, and though he said Colleen had his mother's eyes, she saw only his when she regarded their daughter." You're the one doing the redeeming, KT. How skilfully the Waters' points of view elide...

Bill F Protagoras

"Without Josh, she would be a woman she hated. Who most everyone she knew would hate. Her father, her friends. Even her mother wouldn’t like that person. And Colleen Chang had loved everyone." Confession without the expectation of absolution? The niceties of the distinction between respectability, and self respect dabbled with.

Bill F Protagoras

"He bucked and grunted with wonderful release and the woe of completion." Nicely put and nitid to boot!

Bill F Protagoras

"For Josh was fictile, and the world around him chose his shape." Clever, cunningly wrought ambivalence. The measure of all things that are, and 'are not.' 'Fictile'... in Nordic mythology woman and man were made of wood (driftwood?) not clay, Ask and Embla. Each their own tree, no spare ribbing!

JL23

She always says how long she hasn’t been with a “man.” Very specific, and I feel like that’s not just a casual turn of phrase without any meaning. But maybe it is. I think Josh’s reaction to the videotape will probably be the same as his reaction to other revelations in this book. Horrified yet turned on, with the desire winning out. He’s come this far toward acceptance, I don’t think this would cause him to flee. And at this point, probably not even a Hyun revelation (if there is one) would cause that. I don’t know if he, or we, will get that. Again, I kind of hope at the very least we will get some clarification. For me, that’s kind of the last thing I’ll need before I’m personally ready to move on to other stories. I think we’re almost at a good “resolution” point of this one.

Bill F Protagoras

"Stretch her sex to the limit, an enormous cock head reaming her guts before it exploded inside her like a hand grenade, flooding her with an orgasmic payload that rounded her belly once more." Progeny as the product of existential angst... fast-forwarding evolution.

Bill F Protagoras

"How couldn’t he believe that she would miss it again in the future?" The one... the sole ineluctable twenty-second catch.

Bill F Protagoras

"She would just be another wicked widget in the wicked widget factory." Now there's the inspiration for future bedtime stories for Colleen the toddler. Also amusingly self-effacing... recalling what must have been a humanizing facet of pre-reunion Kimberly.

Kat

I would be surprised now if she tells him anything about Hyun. It seems like she doesn’t consider it “real” cheating, as she keeps referring to having not been with a man in a year. I know it’s not in the style of the book, but I’d love to hear Hyun’s side of story, and did she hear them downstairs. Maybe a chapter with Hyun’s thoughts and story telling? I was also thinking, and I know this is very unlikely, that maybe Kimmy wasn’t with Hyun in a relationship-type way this past year. Maybe she was stringing her along, and Hyun was hoping Josh wouldn’t come back, and she’d get to raise Colleen as her own child. She’d also get to stay living in the house with Kimmy, but now she knows she’s going to have to leave. That could explain the tears in the kitchen. I know it’s unlikely. What’s Josh going to do when he hears Kimmy on tape saying that Josh will raise Devlin’s child within their marriage, and stay home and care for the house? At this point, I think they’re back together, so I don’t think it will jeopardize anything. This story could continue forever, and there will always be unanswered questions. I’d be okay with more chapters. I wish this wasn’t the last book. Lol

Bill F Protagoras

“Just one time, Kimmy. I want you as my wife. I want you like how we used to be.” Yet we never step in the same river twice... and "We can't go home again!"

Bill F Protagoras

"And deep down in his chest’s host rock, past the gangue and under the overburden, lay unexpected and undeserved love, a thin vein of still-sparkling ore." That's some petrifyingly astute post Homeric epic metaphor!

JL23

Another long asked question to be answered next it seems. I thought Kimmy talking about why she needed Josh to herself was enlightening. She fears how far she’d fall into the darkness without him, and that she’d become a person no one would like, including herself. In a way, they both cling onto the other because they’re frightened of who they become without the other. But…I don’t really think that’s healthy? Again, I believe there’s genuine love, but there’s also kind of a…I don’t know how to describe it…maybe a calculation? Or a bargain they’re each making by staying together? I can’t shake a nagging feeling now that both would be better off with someone else, and deep in their bones, they know that. But it’s too hard and painful to actually confront that truth, so they’re just going to bury it as deep as they can, for as long as they can. With the videos about to be resolved, the only thing I really feel is left now is Hyun. That would be the only big thing Josh really doesn’t know. Beyond exactly how all this started at Tiffany’s party, and we don’t even know that really.

Bill F Protagoras

Like the desperate besotted solipsist he is, Josh instinctively blames himself! While Kimmy, on her plinth, plays the sphinx... The right to silence protecting us all from self incrimination... Supposedly!

Bill F Protagoras

"Hell is other people." Sartre and his existential angst! However, as scouse xenophobe Dave Lister of 'Red Dwarf' dismissively explained it away... "All his mates were French!"

Donkatsu

Better than calling it "Escape Velocity", I suppose.

Tracey52

Amazing but, “He would never know if Devlin or Amy had started last summer’s treachery, or even if it had been Kimmy who'd started it. He’d never know the truth because he’d stepped away from consciousness that night at Tiffany’s; had over-indulged and paid the price.” This is a little unsatisfactory. I want to know (as I throw a tantrum.)

Bill F Protagoras

At the risk of repeating myself... Wow! But back to front...

Bill F Protagoras

And the title? Paradise Regained? Right?

Bill F Protagoras

That's some muse you invoke! It's easy to say you had it all planned, but the execution is really something else!

Bill F Protagoras

I'm so glad you made me wait!

Bill F Protagoras

Wow!

Jim

I unsubscribed last week. I’ve just reversed that decision. Please don’t end this incredible story.

Kat

Welcome back, KT! Great chapter.


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