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[Tree] Chapter 367: The Immortal's Truth

🕑 Added 2024-09-20 13:45:48 +0000 UTC

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Alexey Gladkich

Worldwalkers are not born in hell; where did you get that from? They are unrelated to the demonic Qi. She didn't bother to rule her family, and they are not particularly important to her either. She doesn't even care to rule her family; why then rule sects? You don't get what long-term depression and utter lack of motivation is. Why she is above Starcore - simply because as an origin capable of opposing heavens to some degree, she can achieve a cultivation level similar to that of the top realm. Why she isn't significantly more powerful than Peak Starcore? Then, her family would pester her over the advancement method. Okay, think of this. Void cultivators increase their soul size by cultivating Void Qi. Hence, whatever soul is made from can be made via Void Qi and, subsequently, souls.

Sargon Yami

Worldwalkers are not born in the void. They are born in hell. They just life in hell Why bother... i don't know to protect here family that was important to her? There is no reason for her to be stuck at the starcore realm and be a punshing bag for others. (Just to be clear i mean as okd as THIS world tree.) I am going of memory here. But i remember them saying that her soul should no be able to contain void qi. We now know that she can thanks to being related to the origin of the void. Nowhere does it imply that she is higher than a peak starcore inside of heavens reality. And if she had the capacity to go higher but didn't she is just stupid from her. The space origin for example grew to a power that could be a boon for monarch and beyond and even advanced to aether qi before dying (being killed). Morigan at the monarch level could rule the ninth layer with without any problem no one could even touch her. the only devine being there is the world tree. Why should she life under the boot of others then you could be free?

Alexey Gladkich

@SargonYami it's like you didn't read the story. Morrigan's cultivation was stripped every time she died, and she had to restart from zero. Why bother cultivating if she gave up fighting after so long? And that's not what Worldwalker said. He was surprised that voidlings are born in reality at all. Now we know that Voidminds are descendants of Morrigan, which explains that part of the mystery. Void is an absence of reality, but you have worldwalkers born in the void and Morrigan who is the manifestation of the Void. So, the nature of the void doesn't imply whether or not the souls of voidlings can be made from the void.

Sargon Yami

she is as old as the world tree there is no real reason for her to be so weak unless she can't surpass her current level. even the worldwalker stated that elains soul should not be able to carry void qi and void qi is effectifly the absence of everything. you can't create a soul out of nothing even the trees system can't just create stuff. the reason i said that she might have the same cultivation system outside of heavens carefully woven reality was because she is shown to be completly uneffected by ashlocks pressure even with the inner world and 3 stages are not that big of a difference. later she is ground into the dirt by him after they enter heavens reality again. And the pocket realm was not filled with void but shadow qi. the pocket reals clearly don't count as a part of that, because ashlock could invite a worldwalker into one of them. my conclution after all infos is that she is a peak halve step void cultivator or at least on that level of power and unable to advance under heavens reality, but outside of it she becomes wastly more powerful because she uses the "voidling" natural cultivation.

Alexey Gladkich

@EliseoRios No, that's straight-up wrong. They couldn't reach the Nascent Soul Realm because the heavens cannot forge a soul from void Qi. And heavens can't because they have no authority over void Qi. If the void cultivator could forge a nascent soul by themselves then nothing prevents them from ascending.

Eliseo Rios

It's not an assumption. It was clearly stated that no void cultivator could surpass the star core real due to heavens carefully woven reality preventing it. This is true for her, even if she is an origin

Alexey Gladkich

There were a multitude of differences: 1) It was Ash's soul fragment vs his entire soul. 2) Ash increased cultivation by three stages. 3) Morrigan used a lot of Qi in the fight vs Skyrends Also, the first interaction wasn't in the void but in a pocket realm. And it is a given that a cultivator is more powerful when they are in their element - it has nothing to do with the cultivation stage.

Sargon Yami

After she returned ashlock dealt with her quite easily. But the version we saw in the void (the pocket realms appear to count as in the void) she was FAR more powerful than tree leading me to believe that she has two cultivations one of the void and one under the laws of heaven. She is probably a halve step but not more.

Alexey Gladkich

Why do you assume Morrigan is at Star Core Realm? She is clearly above Star Core Realm. The only question is whether she is in Nascent Soul Realm or has an alternative cultivation path.

Sargon Yami

If she can why is she still at the starcore realm? I think she has a dual cultivation. In the void she has the same one as for example the worldwalkers. but in reality she is surpressed down to the starcore realm because she is not able to create a second soul. Maybe adhlock can free her later (a lot later) like he did with maple?

Alexey Gladkich

Also, Morrigan is likely to be capable of creating a Nascent Soul from void Qi and assisting Voidminds in getting to the Nascent Soul Realm. It's just that the heavens can't do so.

Sargon Yami

two things you are using bad faith wrong. i never stated anything i did not believe or claimed you were lying. ignoring stuff is not lying. second you don't have to comb through all 366 prior chapters i already gave you pointers where you can find them. Ash is what one would call an anti-hero. not a pure hero. if you weight everything he did against the morality of the world he would be more on the positive side of it. he did not harm the mortal servants of the Lunarshar family and let's not forget that they were not good either.

KuruptedSilence

Ahhhhhhhh gotcha I read way to far into it 😂

Sargon Yami

you don't have to reach nascan in all of them seperatly. you need to reach the peak of all of them (in this case starcore) and then you can enter the nascant realm. the second soul is created and then you advance. the reason void alone can't is because the creation of the second soul is not possible with void qi. but if you can create one with the other one it will advance as well.

Alexey Gladkich

First of all, the necessity for the main character of the story to be moral in any way is not essential for people above the age of 12. We're just here to witness the story and hopefully find it entertaining. People that find morality important in story-book characters just screw themselves over for no good reason. And even when accounting morality, you compare it to Vincent? The guy devoid of any love and affection, one who perceives the whole sect as a giant pig farm for him to harvest, and the only people he trusts are his mind-controlled slaves? And you consider rooting for him based on morality? That's quite a take, to put it lightly.

KuruptedSilence

"Each affinity needs to be tended to individually, and while they can be at different stages within the same realm, in order to ascend to the next realm, the cultivator has to bring them all to the maximum stage."

KuruptedSilence

Yeah but this chapter just stated that in order to ascend to the next realm with multiple affinities that all of them have to reach and surpass the 9th stage.

Scion

No, when she went to The void they explained that That's not going to be the case and the solution to that is dual affinity

alberforth

as always edge of my seat see yall in two days TFTC

Ethan Barrow

TFTC!! Looking forward to that grand reveal.

KuruptedSilence

So with this new information about multiple affinities does that mean Elaine will forever be stuck at the apex of the star core realm since the void affinity can't assend to the nascent soul realm?

doombringer35

Ok then let me be clear. I am about to search 366 chapters using find for Vincent's name and compare each evil deed side by side and if ash does not come out the clear winner i.e. the lesser of evils my point will absolutely stand and you will have come to this debate in bad faith and argued just to f'n argue about MY beliefs and opinions.

Sargon Yami

Just to be clear i don't call ash good. Better yes but not good

doombringer35

I will go look those up, hopefully they are worse than what ash has done. Doubtful, but I will look

Sargon Yami

Beginning of book 5 for both family and mindcontrol and somewhere in book 2 dante explains the movingplan as dictated by him. Eating children and so one first and second chapter book 5 and the one morigan appears in for the first time. Ending book 4 he wakes up in a bath of blood. Need more? Reading the exact lines is something you should be able to do yourself. ;)

doombringer35

Ok give me chapter, paragraph, and line on that.

Sargon Yami

You claimed we have no proof of mindcontrol. You were wrong we have it from his own POV. You claimed again that he did not wipe out families and jet again you are wrong we know of at least one the ravenclaws and he allready elected to slaughter several families an entire sect because he wants their land. His murder and drinking not withstanding. In the two chapters we have seen from him he is shown to be far worse than ashlock. The number of chapters has no bearing on truth. But if you think he could still be the good guy... sure.

doombringer35

Your not filling in holes you are solidifying my position and if you would like to go talk about 1 chapter on Vincent vrs 360 chapters on ash. Well it further proves the point on how much we have talked about each ones evils

Sargon Yami

well you forgot a lot or are ignoring much. just wanted to fill in the holes.

Sargon Yami

i think origin stones create the purest form of the qi and daos making it easier (maybe possible) to learn it. but the fact that one can upgrade ones qi affinity should mean that it is possible without one just a lot harder. and what if ash simply uses his eye to watch stella for a long time use it? could that work?

BrotherJohn

Yessss

Basically God

Will he open his eye is the real question. Thanks for the chapter~♥

Basically God

Origin stones do work on increasing comprehension so if he spends the time to comprehend it or the system does it for him... No reason he can't.

doombringer35

Wait who are you trying to convince? My mind is already firmly made up on this subject. Your are just making me feel more solidified in my opinion.

Tony Castagnino

Big facts.

Roombot

Face to eye, even

Sargon Yami

the ravenclaws there wiped out by his order. he slaughtered other sects as well. Have you forgotten that the plan curently is to move the entire sect in one go and kill another sect that allready lifes in that area? No proof about the mind control? how about his POV chapters or valanders words? He even wants to control the minds of the entire sect. It is also stated that by both morigan and valander that he takes children and young of families to eat them. And no a nascant realm is no threat to his power he is far beyond them. they don't challange his power. his is in the 8th stage of the realm potentialy now peak

doombringer35

No Vincent hasn't wiped out entire families he cultivates them for specific blood affinities "that he can smell" to further his own cultivation and Dao understanding. We have sadly been shown no proof that he mind controls anyone but that he simply rules through power. As they have said repeatedly throughout this series he leaves families alone and for the most part is apathetic long as they follow the law. If a cultivator gets strong enough to challenge his power he eliminates them with the help of his assassin's. For all we know he could actually be the good guy and simply not have enough power to change things. Personally I just don't know.

Sargon Yami

if ash enters an aether qi pocket real and cultivates in it can he upgrade his affinity?

Sargon Yami

vincent mind controlls countless people, drains the blood of innocent people to gain bloodlines, murders anyone that just reach his realm of cultivation not even his stage, has viped out families as well, eat everyone that does not awaken a bloodline and so on. sure ash is not a good guy but you have a wired way to look at things. "most recently kill a cultivator that stumbled into a new world and desperately just wanted to get out" you mean the woman that killed people for talking and here way out was killing more people? Jasmine still cares about people and does not delight in their suffering.

Sargon Yami

stella and co don't know that either.

Dino

This book updating is the only thing keeping me going

doombringer35

Not a single difference can be decerned anymore, in fact because we get to watch ashs' acts and not just hear mentions it makes them all the more present and real to me than the out of hand comments of the others. I think the only thing that we have seen Vincent do is kill the one evergreen cultivator and start hunting Stella. But we have seen ash whipe out entire families and most recently kill a cultivator that stumbled into a new world and desperately just wanted to get out. Not to mention jasmine turning from a person that cares about others to a person that delights in the suffering of others. It is just quite jarring to say the least.

Demonlord

Thanks for the nice chapter 😊 That cliffs are as cruel as the storm surrounding the beast tide... But I'm curious about what the others will think about Ash's reveal 😁

Demonlord

It's a cruel world and there is no way of surviving without having to commit to crimes. And between hunting down other cultivators for their bloodline to keep ruling and stay above everyone else and Ashlocks attempts to further the cultivation of normal people and free food and a warm environment through his mushrooms and flowers it is a vast difference between Vincent and Ash

Tara Lanth

Noooo curse you and your cliffhangers! Lol tftc cant wait for the next one! Been waiting for this moment since the alchemy tournament!

Demonlord

You mean face to bark? 🤣

Victor Mijares

Guessing he is gonna keep his human from another world secret.

Sancturillore -- Élie Simard-Wallot

I fail to understand your reasoning.

Sancturillore -- Élie Simard-Wallot

Wut?

Black Rose

If the author finds a way to give Jasmine a second affinity I hope Serena's and that she gets cause their friendship or something. Also the abyssal tide affinity sounds cool

Billy Nguyen

AMAZING CHAPTER THANK YOU!!!

Austin T Delpier

Finally, what a cliff hanger can't wait for their reactions

Amosz

Since she reached soul fire realm she no longer can gain additional affinity. But she have body constitution that makes her immune to poison, and she produces her own poison from finger tips. But she don't have a poison Qi.

Wanderer

I belive she can't have a second affinity anymore. That time has passed for her. She can, however, produce poison from her fingers and teeth even without the affinity, since she aquired a Soul Mutation.

doombringer35

I am left conflicted. I am currently not sure who to root for. It was ash but now I have seen him do more evil than Vincent. I hope that ash does more good things to help tip the scales back but as of right now. I just don't know.

Joker Nijima

Thanks for the chapter!

Demon Fire

I'm burning with excitement!!! , but this Clif tho 😭😭

Black Rose

Thats what I thought but I remembered them discussing getting a second affinity for Jasmine and that they needed to do it before soul fire realm which she's in now

BeardPriest

It’s not a true second affinity it’s a body constitution, she still just has nature affinity.

Djinko

I’m not sure I think she decided to go for only one affinity.

Zecir

Nooo the cliff

Black Rose

Is Jasmine's second affinity poison now or are they still picking a second affinity?

Tony Castagnino

Cant wait for them to meet face to face

SDCard

Thanks for the chapter!

Quentin Cozzi

Thanks for the chapter!


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